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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@mandrakesoft.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Concerned Programmer <tkhoadfdsaf@hotmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>, Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	"Morgan Collins [Ax0n]" <sirmorcant@morcant.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Tainted Modules Help Notices
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:28:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011010172832.P10443@turbolinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15rQjC-0000m2-00@the-village.bc.nu> <m2itdnf6a9.fsf@anano.mitica>
In-Reply-To: <m2itdnf6a9.fsf@anano.mitica>

On Oct 11, 2001  01:02 +0200, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >>>>> "alan" == Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> alan> Well under the DMCA thats probably a criminal offence with five years in
> alan> jail. The truth however is that if you want to lie about licensing or
> alan> run a modutils that doesn't do it nobody stops you. Its there primarily
> alan> to deal with bug filtering from people who don't know better. Folks who
> alan> know enough to subvert the mechanism generally also know better than to
> alan> post Nvdriver bugs to l/k.
> 
> Never understimate the ability of users to subert that kind of
> barriers.

Given that "subversion" will only mean editing the text output of ksymoops
to not display the "tainted" flag, I don't see it to be a big barrier to
entry.  If it is in the FAQ (or documented elsewhere) that "if ksymoops
says 'tainted: 1' submit your bug reports only to the vendor" it will be
a small matter to delete that line, and if this is NOT documented anywhere
it will not reduce the number of bug submissions, which was the original
goal.

I don't think we need to be mucking with "GPL vs. BSD" or anything, but
rather "source available or not" as the criterion for a tainted module.
Heaven forbid that using some driver currently in the kernel sources
marks your kernel as tainted, it would make the whole thing useless.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger  \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto,
                 \  would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/               -- Dogbert


  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-10 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-10  8:06 Tainted Modules Help Notices Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10  8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10  8:24   ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10  8:31   ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 13:50   ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 13:59     ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 14:01       ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 17:30       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 18:18         ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 20:06           ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-10 20:28             ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10 21:28               ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 22:03                 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2001-10-11  7:27                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 21:17             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 23:02               ` Juan Quintela
2001-10-10 23:28                 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-10-10 22:29                   ` Rob Landley
2001-10-11  2:48                     ` 2.4.11 UDF Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-11  3:26                       ` Craig Whitmore
2001-10-11  8:50               ` Tainted Modules Help Notices Andreas Ferber
2001-10-11  9:25                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11  9:35                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-11  9:41                     ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-10-11  9:48                       ` Syed Mohammad Talha
2001-10-11 10:09                       ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-11 10:37                         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11 22:42                           ` David Schwartz
2001-10-11 23:40                             ` John Alvord
2001-10-12  1:12                               ` David Schwartz
2001-10-12  1:32                                 ` Robert Love
2001-10-11 12:10                       ` James Sutherland
2001-10-10 14:13     ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 14:18       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 13:10 ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-10 14:06 Bonds, Deanna
2001-10-10 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven

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