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From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
To: <jalvo@mbay.net>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Tainted Modules Help Notices
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:12:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011012011217.AAA27996@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aebcstsuksjmoqvf1rseel7c3sqgobu4tc@4ax.com>


>URLs go bad and non-responsive regularly,,,
>john

	Yes, but modules that have available source code don't often morph into 
modules that don't. The desired information is whether or not the source code 
is easily available for debugging.

	Perhaps the best solution is to develop a 'kernel module license' that 
simply requires that the source code be made available to anyone who wishes 
to debug for the purpose of debugging. Complying with the terms of the 
'kernel module license' would give you module that don't taint the kernel. 

	The license would be liberal in that it would allow you to impose a wide 
array of other licensing terms that didn't interfere with debugging. Though 
NDA requirements or any form of explicit contract to obtain the source 
wouldn't be allowed.

	This license wouldn't be compatible with the GPL since it would be 
considered an additional restriction - the GPL doesn't require you to make 
source code available to anyone who wants it and this license would require 
you to do so. It would, however, be compatible with the BSD license. BSD 
licenses shouldn't automatically cause no tainting of the kernel because the 
BSD license doesn't assure that the source code will be available.

	Because this really isn't a copyright enforcement scheme, it's not clear (at 
least to me) how using the tag falsely would be a DMCA violation. However, if 
the tag were copyrighted, displaying it falsely would be a violation of 
several laws (including simple fraud).

	DS



  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-12  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-10  8:06 Tainted Modules Help Notices Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10  8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10  8:24   ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10  8:31   ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 13:50   ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 13:59     ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 14:01       ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 17:30       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 18:18         ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 20:06           ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-10 20:28             ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10 21:28               ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 22:03                 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2001-10-11  7:27                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 21:17             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 23:02               ` Juan Quintela
2001-10-10 23:28                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-10 22:29                   ` Rob Landley
2001-10-11  2:48                     ` 2.4.11 UDF Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-11  3:26                       ` Craig Whitmore
2001-10-11  8:50               ` Tainted Modules Help Notices Andreas Ferber
2001-10-11  9:25                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11  9:35                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-11  9:41                     ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-10-11  9:48                       ` Syed Mohammad Talha
2001-10-11 10:09                       ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-11 10:37                         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11 22:42                           ` David Schwartz
2001-10-11 23:40                             ` John Alvord
2001-10-12  1:12                               ` David Schwartz [this message]
2001-10-12  1:32                                 ` Robert Love
2001-10-11 12:10                       ` James Sutherland
2001-10-10 14:13     ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 14:18       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 13:10 ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-10 14:06 Bonds, Deanna
2001-10-10 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven

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