From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: Tim Jansen <tim@tjansen.de>
Cc: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:21:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011019122101.G2467@mikef-linux.matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110191108590.17647-100000@osdlab.pdx.osdl.net> <15uerh-0NbBEeC@fmrl04.sul.t-online.com>
In-Reply-To: <15uerh-0NbBEeC@fmrl04.sul.t-online.com>
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Tim Jansen wrote:
> On Friday 19 October 2001 20:26, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> > There are equivalents in USB. But, neither of them are globally unique
> > identifiers for the device. That doesn't necessarily mean that one
> > couldn't be ascertained from the device; ethernet cards do have MAC
> > addresses. But, I don't think that many will have a ID/serial number.
> > [...]
> > Which leads me to the question: what real benefit does this have? Why
> > would you ever want to do a global search in kernel space for a particular
> > device?
>
> For example for harddisks. You usually want them to be mounted in the same
> directory.
When is /etc/fstab going to support this?
#Or if you have several printers of the same type connected your
> computer you need a way of identifying them.
/dev/ttyS0 and /dev/lp0
>Or for ethernet adapters:
> because each is connected to a different network, so you need to assign
> different IP addresses to them.
>
I haven't seen anything assign ethX assign a certain order, except for
ordered module loading, and then if there are multiple devices with the same
driver, the order is chosen by bus scanning order, or module option.
> Actually most USB harddisks, printers and network adapters have unique serial
> number (you have to be careful though as some claim to have a serial number,
> but it is not unique).
>
How different do you expect this new driver model to be?
Does anyone know if devfs will, or has any plans to support any of the above
features?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-19 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-17 23:52 [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5 Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 6:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 12:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 16:19 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:38 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-18 22:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 17:09 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-18 22:10 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 18:26 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 19:02 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 19:21 ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
2001-10-19 20:07 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 20:24 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 22:25 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-20 13:47 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-20 1:41 ` john slee
2001-10-20 13:52 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-22 11:02 ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-27 11:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 7:57 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-19 8:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 8:31 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-19 8:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 18:50 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 15:21 ` Taral
2001-10-19 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 15:17 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 16:08 ` Taral
2001-10-18 16:52 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:41 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 18:28 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 19:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 20:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 21:32 ` John Alvord
2001-10-18 22:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 22:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 22:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:30 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 23:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:52 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <3BCF3941.D4B79FE1@mandrakesoft.com>
2001-10-19 17:12 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2001-10-18 17:33 ` Patrick Mochel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-19 17:01 Kevin Easton
2001-10-19 18:40 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 21:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-19 23:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-20 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20 9:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-21 17:09 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 0:19 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23 0:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 0:29 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23 7:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 15:10 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-23 15:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 20:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 20:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 9:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 10:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 10:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 13:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:36 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-10-24 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-24 16:54 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-24 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 17:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 7:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 14:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 8:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 8:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-24 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:52 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-25 23:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 23:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-26 11:35 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-26 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 8:27 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 10:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:02 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-25 14:20 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-25 14:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 14:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 15:22 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 15:44 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-25 16:26 ` David Lang
2001-10-25 21:59 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-25 21:32 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-24 17:01 ` Mike Anderson
2001-10-25 9:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 9:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 9:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 10:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:18 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-24 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-23 9:44 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 11:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 11:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 10:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 17:56 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-24 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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