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From: drevil@warpcore.org
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:31:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011022203159.A20411@virtucon.warpcore.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011022172742.B445@virtucon.warpcore.org> <E15vnuN-0003jW-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E15vnuN-0003jW-00@the-village.bc.nu>

On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:50:59PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> I can't debug Nvidia's code even to see why it might have broken. Its as
> simple as that - no politics, no agenda on them opening it, simple technical
> statement of fact.

On one side I can see this, on the other I can't. For example, no matter how
many times a user visits windows update, chances are his drivers will still work
with his current version of windows. Admittedly, some may not consider this a
feature, but I think a lot do. Why should a 'stable' kernel series break
existing drivers?

> I really doubt Nvidia will open their driver code. I've heard them explain
> some of the reasons they don't and in part they make complete sense.

Microsoft deals with companies that won't always give them access to the drivers
directly, but often they will tell users workarounds, or at least attempt to
gather enough knowledge since they are tehnically the OS vendor to give to the
driver provider to fix the problem. If you are the OS provider, and a change you
make breaks user drivers/programs generally I think it's a polite gesture to at
least attempt to find out what's going on and then pass that information on to
the people who can properly handle it...

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-23  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-22 18:45 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module jarausch
2001-10-22 18:51 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-10-22 18:51 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-22 19:35 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 19:46   ` Christopher Friesen
2001-10-22 19:53     ` Daniel T. Chen
2001-10-22 19:53 ` 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module, or not? Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-10-22 20:24 ` 2.4.13-pre6 breaks Nvidia's kernel module Alan Cox
2001-10-22 22:27   ` drevil
2001-10-22 22:43     ` Charles Cazabon
2001-10-22 22:46     ` Doug McNaught
2001-10-22 22:50     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23  1:31       ` drevil [this message]
2001-10-23  1:43         ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-10-23  2:16           ` drevil
2001-10-23  4:44             ` Nicholas Knight
2001-10-23  5:06               ` Cort Dougan
2001-10-23 11:36                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-23 16:13                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23  5:08               ` drevil
2001-10-23  5:18                 ` J Sloan
2001-10-23  5:59                 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-10-23  7:21                 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-23  5:35           ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-10-23 16:16             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23  9:50           ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-23 23:45             ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-23  7:57         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 14:18           ` drevil
2001-10-23 16:01         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-10-22 23:48     ` Jeff Golds
2001-10-22 23:53 ` Horst von Brand
2001-10-23  9:05 ` Jesper Juhl
2001-10-23 18:07   ` Josh McKinney
2001-10-23 22:51     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-10-24 21:06       ` Reid Hekman
2001-10-25  0:19         ` J . A . Magallon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-22 18:45 jarausch
2001-10-22 18:45 jarausch
2005-01-13 16:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-01-13 17:25 ` Zan Lynx
2005-01-13 17:38 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2001-10-22 18:45 jarausch
2001-10-23  1:50 BH
2001-10-23  9:52 PVotruba
2001-10-23 12:37 Jesse Pollard
     [not found] <fa.fm7f5dv.1cn8eg6@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hbvlhav.v369au@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <023001c15cf4$4fd5ecc0$1a01a8c0@allyourbase>
2001-10-25  4:15     ` Reid Hekman

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