From: Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>,
Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:01:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011024100127.A14124@beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15wLfj-0001C8-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20011024130408.23754@smtp.adsl.oleane.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011024130408.23754@smtp.adsl.oleane.com>; from benh@kernel.crashing.org on Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:04:08PM +0200
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [benh@kernel.crashing.org] wrote:
> Now, I'm not sure what would happen with RAID. If we need to have logical
> volumes be child of the sd "client", then we have to face the fact that
> a given child may have multiple parents... welcome to the power graph !
You do not have to add RAID to need to worry about multiple parents. If we
want to correctly represent devices that have multiple paths (i.e twin
tailed SCSI, fibre channel, multi-ported devices, etc) we should have a
solution to handle this. Some O/S's have moved to directed graphs to
address the multiple parent issue. Exposing only one block / character
device per real physical device would reduce O/S resources (major /
minors, structs) and provide a single request queue.
The current model of a scsi_device having a single parent and being
attached to the scsi_host host_queue has made adding multi-path support
to Linux below the SCSI lower level driver difficult.
> But do we really need logical volumes to be part of the PM tree or
> can blocking of requests at the sd layer be enough ? Remember we are
> in pass2, we have already done memory allocation, we are supposed to
> no longer swap nor do any disk/storage related activity.
>
> A tricky issue indeed...
>
>
> Ben.
-Mike
--
Michael Anderson
andmike@us.ibm.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-24 17:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-19 23:33 [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-20 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20 9:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-21 17:09 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 0:19 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23 0:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 0:29 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23 7:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 15:10 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-23 15:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 20:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 20:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 9:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 10:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 10:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 13:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:36 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-10-24 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-24 16:54 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-24 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 17:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 7:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 14:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 8:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 8:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-24 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:52 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-25 23:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 23:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-26 11:35 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-26 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 8:27 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 10:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:02 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-25 14:20 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-25 14:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 14:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 15:22 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 15:44 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-25 16:26 ` David Lang
2001-10-25 21:59 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-25 21:32 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-24 17:01 ` Mike Anderson [this message]
2001-10-25 9:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 9:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 9:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 10:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:18 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-24 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-23 9:44 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 11:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 11:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 10:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-24 17:56 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-24 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 21:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-19 17:01 Kevin Easton
2001-10-19 18:40 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-17 23:52 Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 6:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 12:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 16:19 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:38 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-18 22:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 17:09 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-18 22:10 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 18:26 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 19:02 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 19:21 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 20:07 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 20:24 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 22:25 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-20 13:47 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-20 1:41 ` john slee
2001-10-20 13:52 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-22 11:02 ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-27 11:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 7:57 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-19 8:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 8:31 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-19 8:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 18:50 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 15:21 ` Taral
2001-10-19 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 15:17 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 16:08 ` Taral
2001-10-18 16:52 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:41 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 18:28 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 19:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 20:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 21:32 ` John Alvord
2001-10-18 22:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 22:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 22:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:30 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 23:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:52 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <3BCF3941.D4B79FE1@mandrakesoft.com>
2001-10-19 17:12 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2001-10-18 17:33 ` Patrick Mochel
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