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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>,
	Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:03:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011025080342.1865@smtp.wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15wWiC-0002uM-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E15wWiC-0002uM-00@the-village.bc.nu>

>
>I don't think it is a big problem. We can add virtual nodes. They way I
>see it we either
>	a) put in grungy subsystem hacks
>	b) register virtual device nodes for subsystems when needed
>
>b feels cleaner

Ok, provided that there is not one big "SCSI subsystem" virtual node,
that would screw up the entire dep. hierarchy, but rather virtual nodes
created by SCSI "clients" on the fly as childs of their devices. That
looks fine to me ;)

An example would be:

  * SCSI host
  |
  |
  * SCSI disk device
  |
  |
  * "sd" node

In this case, "sg" could add itself when opened, and eventually cause
sleep requests to be rejected for example.

Well, in fact, I don't think there is real need for the "SCSI disk device"
node, but that depends pretty much on the new SCSI architecture. 

Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-25  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-19 23:33 [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-20  0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20  9:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-21 17:09     ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23  0:19       ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23  0:31         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23  0:29           ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23  7:53             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 15:10               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-23 15:49                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 20:22                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 20:54                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24  0:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24  9:57                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 10:34                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 10:54                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 13:04                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 13:25                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:36                                   ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-10-24 16:45                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:48                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:46                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-24 16:54                                   ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-24 16:55                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:45                                     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 17:33                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 22:41                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 22:41                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  7:58                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:22                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 14:57                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25  8:03                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2001-10-25  8:09                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:20                                       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:47                                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-24 22:50                                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25  4:14                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:42                                     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:52                                       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-25 23:53                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 23:53                                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-26 11:35                                       ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-26 12:38                                         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25  8:27                                 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 10:01                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:02                                   ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-25 14:20                                   ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-25 14:44                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 14:45                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 15:22                                     ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 15:44                                       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-25 16:26                                     ` David Lang
2001-10-25 21:59                                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-25 21:32                                     ` Rob Turk
2001-10-24 17:01                               ` Mike Anderson
2001-10-25  9:02                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25  9:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  9:47                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:11                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 10:59                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:18                         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-24 15:41                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:59                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 15:56                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-23  9:44             ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 11:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 11:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 10:54           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-24 17:56 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-24 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 21:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-19 17:01 Kevin Easton
2001-10-19 18:40 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-17 23:52 Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18  6:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 12:13   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 16:19     ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:38       ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-18 22:06       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 17:09         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-18 22:10       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 18:26         ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 19:02           ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 19:21             ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 20:07               ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 20:24                 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 22:25                   ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-20 13:47                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-20  1:41               ` john slee
2001-10-20 13:52               ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-22 11:02                 ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-27 11:01                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19  7:57     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-19  8:09       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19  8:31         ` Keith Owens
2001-10-19  8:43           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 18:50       ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 15:21     ` Taral
2001-10-19 23:30     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 23:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 15:17   ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 16:08 ` Taral
2001-10-18 16:52   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:38     ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:41       ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 18:28       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 19:49         ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 20:40           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 21:32           ` John Alvord
2001-10-18 22:23             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 22:26             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 22:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:30             ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 23:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:52                 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <3BCF3941.D4B79FE1@mandrakesoft.com>
2001-10-19 17:12           ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2001-10-18 17:33   ` Patrick Mochel

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