From: Tim Walberg <twalberg@mindspring.com>
To: GOMBAS Gabor <gombasg@inf.elte.hu>
Cc: Tim Walberg <twalberg@mindspring.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Nasty suprise with uptime
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:39:13 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011030093913.B8312@mindspring.com> (raw)
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In-Reply-To: <20011030154733.B27230@pandora.inf.elte.hu> from GOMBAS Gabor on 10/30/2001 08:47
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Hmm... ever hear of NTP? My general rule of thumb:
Never trust any CMOS clock; let the kernel keep track
of time and periodically update the CMOS clock so
that you (hopefully) get a reasonable starting point
when you boot. Trusting any clock with a cheap power
source to provide accurate time-keeping is an exercise
in futility... (and it's not necessarily the power
source's fault - even an outrageously expensive power
source doesn't guarantee good time-keeping). I think
of a CMOS clock as kind of a book mark. If the book
mark gets lost, I can still find where I left off,
it just takes a little more work.
tw
On 10/30/2001 15:47 +0100, GOMBAS Gabor wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:50:43AM -0600, Tim Walberg wrote:
>>
>> > Wouldn't it be fairly simple for the kernel to just remember the (wall
>> > clock) time at boot, and uptime just subtract that from the current
>> > (wall clock) time?
>>
>> So every people with faulty CMOS batteries would have 30+ years of
>> uptime. And if the CMOS date is ahead of the real one and the admin
>> sets it back, you will get negative uptimes etc. If you want such
>> amusements, it is far easier to write an uptime program that just calls
>> random() instead of asking the kernel :)
>>
>> Gabor
>>
>> --
>> Gabor Gombas Eotvos Lorand University
>> E-mail: gombasg@inf.elte.hu Hungary
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-30 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-29 20:31 Nasty suprise with uptime J Sloan
2001-10-29 20:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-29 20:39 ` J Sloan
2001-10-29 20:47 ` Matthew Dharm
2001-10-29 20:52 ` J Sloan
2001-11-09 0:45 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-10-29 21:26 ` David Relson
2001-10-29 23:29 ` Jonathan Briggs
2001-10-30 8:53 ` george anzinger
2001-10-30 13:50 ` Tim Walberg
2001-10-30 14:47 ` GOMBAS Gabor
2001-10-30 15:39 ` Tim Walberg [this message]
2001-10-30 16:18 ` GOMBAS Gabor
2001-10-30 22:53 ` Mike Castle
2001-10-30 8:20 ` george anzinger
2001-10-30 9:47 ` bert hubert
2001-10-30 10:37 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-30 15:56 ` Chris Meadors
2001-10-30 16:22 ` Laurent de Segur
2001-10-30 21:53 ` [OT] " J Sloan
2001-10-30 22:52 ` Jan Dvorak
2001-10-30 23:25 ` [OT] " J Sloan
2001-10-30 7:46 ` Neale Banks
2001-10-30 7:46 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-30 8:15 ` Ville Herva
2001-10-30 8:22 ` Ville Herva
2001-10-30 8:36 ` J. Dow
2001-10-30 9:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-30 16:25 ` Matt Bernstein
2001-10-30 19:43 ` Oden Eriksson
2001-10-29 23:10 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-29 23:20 ` J Sloan
2001-10-29 23:28 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-30 8:21 ` Ville Herva
2001-10-31 22:36 ` J Sloan
2001-11-01 0:49 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-30 8:49 ` george anzinger
2001-10-30 18:17 ` J Sloan
2001-10-30 9:06 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-30 19:19 ` J Sloan
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2001-10-30 16:35 Jesse Pollard
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