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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>
To: Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>
Cc: Gerhard Mack <gmack@innerfire.net>,
	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>,
	vda <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] Re: Nasty suprise with uptime
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:39:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011031143902.Q16554@lynx.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011031135215.O16554@lynx.no> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0110312157060.30141-100000@gans.physik3.uni-rostock.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0110312157060.30141-100000@gans.physik3.uni-rostock.de>; from tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:05:17PM +0100

On Oct 31, 2001  22:05 +0100, Tim Schmielau wrote:
> > This means you need to call something that _checks_ the uptime
> > (or needs the 64-bit jiffies value) at least once every 1.3 years.
> > If you don't do it at least that often, you probably don't care
> > about the uptime anyways.
> >
> > This only impacts anything that really needs a 64-bit jiffies count,
> > and has zero impact everywhere else.
> 
> I initially thought of that too. My objection was that boxes with long
> uptimes typically get forgotten in a corner until years later someone
> checks uptime again.
> 
> However, I fully agree with your importance argument and believe this
> proposal to be the best one.

Note that there are several tools that check the uptime, not just the
"uptime" command.  For example "top" and "w" also display the uptime
value (reading /proc/uptime).  But yes, if people don't check on their
boxes in a year, then this method will lose full multiples of 1.3 years
between checks.  Probably not a big deal - we can assume such a system
is an "appliance" at that point, regardless of what kind of real system
it is.  If someone wants to ensure their uptime is correct, they can
always put "[ -r /proc/uptime ] && cat /proc/uptime > /dev/null" in their
cron.monthly directory.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/


  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-31 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-31 11:35 [Patch] Re: Nasty suprise with uptime Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 15:39 ` vda
2001-10-31 14:31   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-10-31 18:16     ` Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 18:35       ` Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 18:59         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-31 18:40       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-31 18:58         ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-31 19:14           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-10-31 20:11             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-31 20:39               ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-10-31 20:52               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-31 21:05                 ` Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 21:39                   ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-10-31 21:17                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-01  7:45                   ` Ville Herva
2001-10-31 19:06       ` george anzinger
2001-10-31 22:54       ` george anzinger
2001-11-04 18:31         ` Ton Hospel
     [not found] <01103121070200.01262@nemo>
2001-10-31 19:26 ` Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 19:52   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-10-31 20:00     ` J Sloan
2001-10-31 20:20     ` Charles Cazabon
2001-10-31 20:33       ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-10-31 20:47 ` Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 21:07   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-31 21:11   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-01 16:09   ` vda
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-31 22:11 Petr Vandrovec
2001-10-31 21:45 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-31 22:58 ` Tim Schmielau
2001-10-31 23:56   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-01  0:23     ` Tim Schmielau
2001-11-01  0:52       ` Tim Schmielau
2001-11-01 11:21         ` george anzinger
2001-11-01 11:40           ` Tim Schmielau
2001-11-02  0:28             ` Tim Schmielau
2001-11-02  1:23               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-02  9:10                 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-11-02 17:18                 ` Tim Schmielau
2001-11-02 18:48                   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-01 16:35         ` vda
2001-11-01 15:34           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-01 17:02             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-11-01 18:03               ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-01 18:34                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-11-02 14:46                   ` vda
2001-11-01 17:29             ` george anzinger
2001-11-01  9:02 Petr Vandrovec

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