* VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs @ 2001-10-30 7:26 rwhron 2001-10-30 7:34 ` Jens Axboe 2001-10-30 14:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: rwhron @ 2001-10-30 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel, ltp-list; +Cc: torvalds 2.4.14-pre5 fastest for mtest01, smoothest sound. 2.4.14pre5aa1 2.4.13-ac5-freeswap fastest for mmap001 Summary: mtest01 2.4.14-pre5 had the lowest wall clock time for mtest01. 2.4.14-pre5 and 2.4.14pre5aa1 played just over 80% of the mp3. 2.4.13-ac5-freeswap played 23% of the mp3. mmap001 2.4.13-ac5-freeswap skipped very little and was about 11% faster than the pre5 kernels. 2.4.14-pre5 ----------- mtest01 mp3 played 263 seconds of 321 second run. Averages for 10 mtest01 runs bytes allocated: 1241933414 User time (seconds): 2.088 System time (seconds): 3.129 Elapsed (wall clock) time: 32.104 Percent of CPU this job got: 15.70 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 105.8 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 304000.6 mmap001 No mp3 skips noted. Average for 5 mmap001 runs bytes allocated: 2048000000 User time (seconds): 19.510 System time (seconds): 17.438 Elapsed (wall clock seconds) time: 173.48 Percent of CPU this job got: 20.80 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 500164.4 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 43.6 2.4.14pre5aa1 ------------- mtest01 mp3 played for 318 seconds of 383 second run. Averages for 10 mtest01 runs bytes allocated: 1250217164 User time (seconds): 2.017 System time (seconds): 2.959 Elapsed (wall clock) time: 38.255 Percent of CPU this job got: 12.60 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 125.7 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 306016.6 mmap001 mp3 played 823 seconds of 878 second run. Average for 5 mmap001 runs bytes allocated: 2048000000 User time (seconds): 19.496 System time (seconds): 14.450 Elapsed (wall clock seconds) time: 175.54 Percent of CPU this job got: 18.80 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 500164.4 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 43.8 2.4.13-ac5-freeswap ------------------- The freeswap patch is from www.surriel.com for 2.4.12-ac3. mtest01 mp3 played 81 seconds of 352 second run. Averages for 10 mtest01 runs bytes allocated: 1244345139 User time (seconds): 2.104 System time (seconds): 3.815 Elapsed (wall clock) time: 35.153 Percent of CPU this job got: 16.40 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 113.1 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 304585.4 mmap001 mp3 played 773 seconds of 774 second run Average for 5 mmap001 runs bytes allocated: 2048000000 User time (seconds): 19.160 System time (seconds): 16.748 Elapsed (wall clock seconds) time: 154.70 Percent of CPU this job got: 22.60 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 500174.8 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 20.0 -- Randy Hron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs 2001-10-30 7:26 VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs rwhron @ 2001-10-30 7:34 ` Jens Axboe 2001-10-30 14:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Jens Axboe @ 2001-10-30 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rwhron; +Cc: linux-kernel On Tue, Oct 30 2001, rwhron@earthlink.net wrote: > > 2.4.14-pre5 fastest for mtest01, smoothest sound. > 2.4.14pre5aa1 > 2.4.13-ac5-freeswap fastest for mmap001 Side note -- you cannot directly call this a vm vs vm test, not if you are doing any significant amount of I/O. The -ac and Linus tree have several significant changes in the queueing layer that makes this pretty much and apples and oranges comparison. -- Jens Axboe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs 2001-10-30 7:26 VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs rwhron 2001-10-30 7:34 ` Jens Axboe @ 2001-10-30 14:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2001-10-31 5:41 ` rwhron 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-10-30 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rwhron; +Cc: linux-kernel, ltp-list, torvalds On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 02:26:40AM -0500, rwhron@earthlink.net wrote: > 2.4.14-pre5 > ----------- > > mtest01 > > mp3 played 263 seconds of 321 second run. > > Averages for 10 mtest01 runs > bytes allocated: 1241933414 > bytes allocated: 1250217164 > bytes allocated: 1244345139 the mtest01 -p may comparing apples to oranges. Please make sure to apply the -p fix I posted in the last days before using the -p option, otherwise the amount of memory swapped out will be random. In this case the -aa run was a little penalized for example (not much but since the difference is of the order of seconds ...). thanks! Andrea ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs 2001-10-30 14:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-10-31 5:41 ` rwhron 2001-11-04 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: rwhron @ 2001-10-31 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: linux-kernel, ltp-list, torvalds On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 03:49:11PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > > Averages for 10 mtest01 runs > > bytes allocated: 1241933414 > > bytes allocated: 1250217164 > > bytes allocated: 1244345139 > > the mtest01 -p may comparing apples to oranges. Please make sure to apply > the -p fix I posted in the last days before using the -p option, > > thanks! > > Andrea I put Andrea's patch on mtest01.c to remove the variation of memory allocated between runs. So far I've only tested it on 2.4.14pre5aa1. Paul Larson's comments about the test working as designed make sense too. Jen Axboe's comment about how much I/O comes into play in these tests is right on. The mmap001 test pounds the disk with 20000-30000 Blk_wrtn/s. mtest01 can do over 50000 Blk_wrtn/s. Small differences in any results should be ignored, because there is always some variation in the test. I.E. One run may receive 120 lines of input from the IRC clients, and another only 30. One run I may type 30 characters, another 200. Not a lot of difference when you think about bytes processed, but it can affect the results. This isn't a perfectly controlled test, though I try to keep variations down to the things listed above. For the last 10 days or so, I always use the same mp3 sampled at 128k. There are differences in .config too. They all started with the same .config, but after "make oldconfig", they change a little. In the diff below, aa=Andrea, ac=Alan, lt=Linus. (This is from latest pre5aa1, ac5, and pre5 kernels) diff aa ac > CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y > CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y > CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y < CONFIG_NO_PAGE_VIRTUAL=y diff aa lt > CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y < CONFIG_NO_PAGE_VIRTUAL=y diff ac lt < CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y < CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y The kernels themselves vary in size a bit. 2.4.14pre5aa Memory: 514516k/524224k available (912k kernel code, 9320k reserved, 231k data, 208k init 2.4.13-ac5 Memory: 513492k/524224k available (911k kernel code, 10344k reserved, 235k data, 212k init 2.4.14-pre5 Memory: 514060k/524224k available (904k kernel code, 9776k reserved, 228k data, 208k init This is from 2.4.14pre5aa1 with mtest01 patch. mp3 played 288 seconds of 392 second run (new run with patch - more bytes allocated) mp3 played 318 seconds of 383 second run (previous run). Averages for 10 mtest01 runs bytes allocated: 1284505600 User time (seconds): 2.145 System time (seconds): 3.005 Elapsed (wall clock) time: 39.206 Percent of CPU this job got: 12.60 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 132.1 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 314387.9 mp3 played 848 seconds of 875 second run. mp3 played 823 seconds of 878 second run (previous run). Average for 5 mmap001 runs bytes allocated: 2048000000 User time (seconds): 19.530 System time (seconds): 14.396 Elapsed (wall clock seconds) time: 174.98 Percent of CPU this job got: 19.00 Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 500165.0 Minor (reclaiming a frame) faults: 43.0 For the re-run of mmap001, the seconds played varied by 3% from the previous run. Any difference of 5% or less should be ignored, imho. So I'm thinking about just continuing to use the mtest01 from LTP, knowing that with my test conditions, a variation of a few percent isn't significant. Andrea, is that okay with you? -- Randy Hron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: VM test comparison of 2.4.14-pre5, aa1, and 2.4.13-ac5-fs 2001-10-31 5:41 ` rwhron @ 2001-11-04 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-11-04 1:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rwhron; +Cc: linux-kernel, ltp-list, torvalds On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:41:29AM -0500, rwhron@earthlink.net wrote: > So I'm thinking about just continuing to use the mtest01 from LTP, > knowing that with my test conditions, a variation of a few percent > isn't significant. > > Andrea, is that okay with you? Why don't you use the -b option with the mean size of all the previous runs that you did with the default -p option? this way you'd avoid throwing away all the previous results and the new ones would be more reliable. I'd prefer if you would allocate always the same amount of memory, the variations are not huge, so I guess it's better to reduce the userspace noise. In particular I'm interested if you can see significant performance variations between pre5aa1 and pre6aa1 and pre7aa2. I'm also testing here (mainly Linus's 40m kde test to verify interactive response on real life that unfortunately cannot produce raw numbers) and I didn't had much time to spend producing numbers since there was also some bug to fix utill yesterday (should be all fixed in pre7aa2). The recent changes were mostly in function of the kde mem=40m workload that is pretty well usable for me in pre7aa2 (xmms never skips one beat while playing mp3 even if mem=40m and browsing the web with konqueror is fluid, mozilla also is usable but much slower than konqueror with mem=40m because it's a true memory hog at least when flash starts and of course it shares less libs with the rest of the desktop). Andrea ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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