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From: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: Charles Marslett <cmarslett9@cs.com>
Cc: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>,
	James A Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>, war <war@starband.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:54:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011118235412.A2171@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BF82443.5D3E2E11@starband.net> <E165ZRi-000718-00@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk> <20011118230540.A2042@werewolf.able.es> <3BF837F9.C7424E5C@cs.com>
In-Reply-To: <3BF837F9.C7424E5C@cs.com>; from cmarslett9@cs.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 23:36:41 +0100


On 20011118 Charles Marslett wrote:
>"J.A. Magallon" wrote:
>> On 20011118 James A Sutherland wrote:
>> >On Sunday 18 November 2001 9:12 pm, war wrote:
>> >> It is amazing that I could run all of that stuff, because:
>> >>
>> >> When I have swap on, and if I run all of those programs, 200-400MB of
>> >> swap is used.
>> >
>> >Yep. There's a reason for that: the kernel is *ALWAYS* able to swap pages out
>> >to disk - even without "swap space". Disabling swapspace simply forces the
>> >kernel to swap out more code, since it cannot swap out any data.
>> 
>> Sure ??? Where ?? What disk space uses it to swap pages to ?
>
>The code is "swapped" to the original file it was loaded from.  You just
>free up the pages for someone else to use until you get a page fault in that
>task, then reload it from the original executable.  That may have something
>to do with the fact that he gets better performance without a swap file allocated,
>since code swaps never write, only read (half as much disk I/O).  I could see

Yup, I missed mmapped pages. You can drop them and reread, yes. 

-- 
J.A. Magallon                           #  Let the source be with you...        
mailto:jamagallon@able.es
Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
Linux werewolf 2.4.15-pre6-beo #1 SMP Sun Nov 18 10:25:01 CET 2001 i686

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-18 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-18 21:12 Swap war
2001-11-18 21:25 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 21:28   ` Swap war
2001-11-18 21:42     ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 21:45       ` Swap war
2001-11-18 23:03       ` Swap Erik Gustavsson
2001-11-19 18:12         ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 18:43           ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20  2:49             ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20  3:33               ` Swap Ryan Cumming
2001-11-20 11:43                 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 11:41               ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 19:12           ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-20  2:47             ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20  9:16               ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 22:05   ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 22:21     ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 22:36     ` Swap Charles Marslett
2001-11-18 22:54       ` J.A. Magallon [this message]
2001-11-18 23:36     ` Swap Bernd Eckenfels
     [not found] <fa.inl6g6v.1mmbp4@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.heevhav.sjs8an@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-18 22:15   ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-18 22:43     ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-19  9:18       ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 10:51         ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 13:33           ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 13:46             ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 16:58               ` Swap Rik van Riel
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191458150.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:13                   ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 21:17                     ` Swap Rik van Riel
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191917000.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:52                         ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 16:36             ` Swap Jesse Pollard
2001-11-20 14:51             ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-20 16:01               ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 16:06                 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 16:12                 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 16:20                 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 17:14                   ` Swap Christopher Friesen
2001-11-20 17:40                     ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 18:14                       ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 10:17                         ` Swap Helge Hafting
2001-11-21 11:17                           ` Swap Alan Cox
2001-11-20 23:20                       ` Swap Luigi Genoni
2001-11-21 16:44                       ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 17:58                     ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 21:05                     ` Swap Steffen Persvold
2001-11-20 21:18                       ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 21:33                         ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 21:44                           ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 22:00                             ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:53                             ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 21:43                         ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 21:19                       ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:48                       ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 20:58               ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-19 10:03       ` Swap Tim Connors
2001-11-19 10:16         ` Swap Dan Maas
     [not found] <fa.kmf405v.j74f21@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ns5ugpv.q02sbg@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 21:26   ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 22:05     ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:11       ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 22:19         ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:34           ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:05             ` Swap Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <fa.jc73ejv.1s6e80t@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-21  1:45               ` Swap Håvard Kvålen
2001-11-21  4:23                 ` Swap Andreas Dilger
2001-11-20 22:23         ` Swap Andrew Morton
2001-11-20 23:01           ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 23:35             ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 23:40               ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-21  0:19                 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-21  0:21                   ` Swap David S. Miller
     [not found] <fa.kb6ct7v.pgku0d@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.k8qdvcv.184ak2l@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 22:46   ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:17     ` Swap Trond Myklebust

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