From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: Steffen Persvold <sp@scali.no>
Cc: Christopher Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
root@chaos.analogic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:18:39 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011120131839.B4210@mikef-linux.matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1011120111730.7650A-100000@chaos.analogic.com> <3BFA8F87.9FB4C13E@nortelnetworks.com> <3BFAC5A1.81474E74@scali.no>
In-Reply-To: <3BFAC5A1.81474E74@scali.no>
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:05:37PM +0100, Steffen Persvold wrote:
> Christopher Friesen wrote:
> >
> > "Richard B. Johnson" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday 20 November 2001 15:51, J.A. Magallon wrote:
> > > > > When a page is deleted for one executable (because we can re-read it from
> > > > > on-disk binary), it is discarded, not paged out.
> > > >
> > > > What happens if the on-disk binary has changed since loading the program?
> > > > -
> > >
> > > It can't. That's the reason for `install` and other methods of changing
> > > execututable files (mv exe-file exe-file.old ; cp newfile exe-file).
> > > The currently open, and possibly mapped file can be re-named, but it
> > > can't be overwritten.
> >
> > Actually, with NFS (and probably others) it can. Suppose I change the file on
> > the server, and it's swapped out on a client that has it mounted. When it swaps
> > back in, it can get the new information.
> >
>
> This sounds really dangerous... What about shared libraries ??
>
IIRC (if wrong flame...)
When you delete an open file, the entry is removed from the directory, but
not unlinked until the file is closed. This is a standard UNIX semantic.
Now, if you have a set of processes with shared memory, and one closes, and
another is created to replace, the new process will get the new libraries,
or even new version of the process. This could/will bring down the entire
set of processes.
Apps like samba come to mind...
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-20 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <fa.inl6g6v.1mmbp4@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.heevhav.sjs8an@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-18 22:15 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-18 22:43 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-19 9:18 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 10:51 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 13:33 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-19 13:46 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-19 16:58 ` Swap Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191458150.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:13 ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 21:17 ` Swap Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111191917000.1491-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2001-11-19 21:52 ` Swap Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-19 16:36 ` Swap Jesse Pollard
2001-11-20 14:51 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-20 16:01 ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-20 16:06 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 16:12 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 16:20 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 17:14 ` Swap Christopher Friesen
2001-11-20 17:40 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 18:14 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 10:17 ` Swap Helge Hafting
2001-11-21 11:17 ` Swap Alan Cox
2001-11-20 23:20 ` Swap Luigi Genoni
2001-11-21 16:44 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 17:58 ` Swap Wolfgang Rohdewald
2001-11-26 21:51 ` [Linux-abi-devel] Swap Christoph Hellwig
2001-11-20 21:05 ` Swap Steffen Persvold
2001-11-20 21:18 ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
2001-11-20 21:33 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-20 21:44 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 22:00 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:53 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 21:43 ` Swap Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-20 21:50 ` NFS, Paging & Installing [was: Re: Swap] Mike Fedyk
2001-11-21 1:22 ` Horst von Brand
2001-11-21 1:46 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-21 10:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-11-22 5:16 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-11-22 12:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-11-23 19:33 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-20 21:19 ` Swap Nick LeRoy
2001-11-21 16:48 ` Swap Remco Post
2001-11-20 20:58 ` Swap Mike Fedyk
2001-11-19 10:03 ` Swap Tim Connors
2001-11-19 10:16 ` Swap Dan Maas
[not found] <fa.kb6ct7v.pgku0d@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.k8qdvcv.184ak2l@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 22:46 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:17 ` Swap Trond Myklebust
[not found] <fa.kmf405v.j74f21@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.ns5ugpv.q02sbg@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-20 21:26 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 22:05 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:11 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 22:19 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 22:34 ` Swap Dan Maas
2001-11-20 23:05 ` Swap Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <fa.jc73ejv.1s6e80t@ifi.uio.no>
2001-11-21 1:45 ` Swap Håvard Kvålen
2001-11-21 4:23 ` Swap Andreas Dilger
2001-11-20 22:23 ` Swap Andrew Morton
2001-11-20 23:01 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-20 23:35 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 23:40 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-21 0:19 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-21 0:21 ` Swap David S. Miller
2001-11-18 21:12 Swap war
2001-11-18 21:25 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 21:28 ` Swap war
2001-11-18 21:42 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 21:45 ` Swap war
2001-11-18 23:03 ` Swap Erik Gustavsson
2001-11-19 18:12 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 18:43 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 2:49 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20 3:33 ` Swap Ryan Cumming
2001-11-20 11:43 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 11:41 ` Swap Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 19:12 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-20 2:47 ` Swap Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-20 9:16 ` Swap James A Sutherland
2001-11-18 22:05 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 22:21 ` Swap François Cami
2001-11-18 22:36 ` Swap Charles Marslett
2001-11-18 22:54 ` Swap J.A. Magallon
2001-11-18 23:36 ` Swap Bernd Eckenfels
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-18 5:06 RFC - tree quotas for Linux (2.4.12, ext2) Neil Brown
2001-10-18 5:53 ` Ben Greear
2001-10-18 8:38 ` James Sutherland
2001-10-18 20:20 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-18 20:47 ` Tim Walberg
2001-10-19 1:07 ` Neil Brown
2001-10-19 3:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-19 11:50 ` Horst von Brand
2001-10-19 17:00 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-18 21:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-18 22:56 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 0:14 ` Horst von Brand
2001-10-19 0:51 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 1:13 ` Neil Brown
2001-10-19 0:53 ` Neil Brown
2001-10-24 15:16 ` Jan Kara
2001-10-24 15:34 ` James Sutherland
2001-10-24 15:39 ` Jan Kara
2001-10-24 15:50 ` James Sutherland
2001-10-24 17:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-24 18:08 ` James Sutherland
2001-10-26 11:25 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-24 21:24 ` Neil Brown
2001-10-25 15:48 ` Jan Kara
2001-10-26 4:36 ` Neil Brown
2001-10-29 14:06 ` Jan Kara
2001-10-29 23:23 ` Neil Brown
2001-10-30 12:33 ` Jan Kara
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