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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: 2.4.15-pre9 breakage (inode.c)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:21:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011124092126.D1419@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011124084455.B1419@athlon.random> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0111240247300.4000-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0111240247300.4000-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 03:05:02AM -0500

On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 03:05:02AM -0500, Alexander Viro wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > > Notice that it fixes _all_ problems with stale inodes, with only one rule
> > > for fs code - "don't call iput() when ->clear_inode() doesn't work".  Your
> > > variant requires funnier things - "if at some point ->clear_inode()
> > > may stop working make sure to call invalidate_inodes()" in addition to
> > > the rule above.
> > 
> > the rule I add is "if ->clear_inode is really needed, just don't clear
> > s_op before returning null from read_super" and that requirement looks
> > fine.
> 
> It's not that simple.  You may need the per-superblock data structures for
> ->clear_inode() to work.
> 
> In any case, it _is_ additional rule for no good reason.  "inode may stay
> in icache after iput() only when fs is up and running" is a warranty that
> is trivial to provide and that removes a source of hard-to-debug screwups
> in fs code.

I don't think it's harder to debug, you need the per-superblock data
structures for ->clear_inode() also if you try to ->clear_inode in iput,
and I cannot see any valid reason for which the fs would be allowed to
screwup the superblock before returning from read_inode. As soon as you
call iget the superblock must be sane and there's no point in screwing
it up afterwards.

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-24  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-23 21:22 2.4.15-pre9 breakage (inode.c) Alexander Viro
2001-11-23 21:42 ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-23 21:51 ` [PATCH][CFT] " Alexander Viro
2001-11-23 22:06   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-23 22:34     ` Russell King
2001-11-23 22:35     ` Phil Sorber
2001-11-23 22:49       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-23 23:05     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-23 23:35       ` Russell King
2001-11-24  1:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-24  5:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  5:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-24  6:08     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  6:26       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  6:31         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  6:37           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  6:50             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  6:58               ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  7:01               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  7:06                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  7:12                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  7:30                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  7:44                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  8:05                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  8:21                           ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-11-24  8:38                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  9:38                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  9:56                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24 10:25                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  6:44           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  6:51             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  9:00     ` Russell King
2001-11-24 10:20     ` Christian Bornträger
2001-11-24  6:04   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-24  6:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-24  6:29       ` Alexander Viro

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