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From: Kent Borg <kentborg@borg.org>
To: war <war@starband.net>
Cc: Mark Hahn <hahn@physics.mcmaster.ca>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap vs No Swap.
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:18:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011126151856.F20261@borg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10111221006010.29736-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca> <3BFD2915.D640C3CB@starband.net>
In-Reply-To: <3BFD2915.D640C3CB@starband.net>; from war@starband.net on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:34:29AM -0500

On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:34:29AM -0500, war wrote:
> Unworkable?
> How is it unworkable for my situation?
> I have 1GB of memory, even when I launch every application I can, I still have
> 350MB left over!

Yes, even X can't easily use up 1 GB by just launching a bunch of
applications.  

Times have changed.  It used to be that RAM was very dear and even
slow and small disks of olden days were worth using to extend the RAM
via a virtual memory scheme.  In many cases today it is quite workable
to throw more RAM at a computer than one can easily use without
"cheating" (say, letting Netscape leak for a few weeks).  But not all
cases.  Some problems are bigger than yours (big databases love RAM,
some video post production loves RAM), and some machines are smaller
than yours (in physical size, power usage, cost).

If you use your computer in such a way that you keep hundreds of
megabytes of RAM free and having swap slows you down, that is a bug
about which people on this list will want hear details.

If you start to use your computer more heavily so that you start to
use swap, and swap slows you down, then there will be interest in how
are doing that.  It might be a bug, it might be an unfortunate
accident of not being able to have one VM for all occasions.

If you start to heavily use swap and it slows you down (when compared
to having no swap), that is also a bug.  Tell the world the details.


-kb, the Kent whose basement server runs with only 64 MB RAM, and yet
though it is always using some swap, the swap usage always seems to be
a smaller number than the amount of RAM used for cache.

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-26 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10111221006010.29736-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-11-22 16:34 ` Swap vs No Swap war
2001-11-26 20:18   ` Kent Borg [this message]
2001-11-22 16:29 Elgar, Jeremy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-22 16:11 Elgar, Jeremy
2001-11-22 16:22 ` Ryan Cumming
2001-11-22 16:22 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-11-22  1:53 war
2001-11-22  2:23 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-11-22  2:31   ` war
2001-11-22  2:58 ` Mark Hahn
2001-11-22  4:09 ` listmail
2001-11-22  5:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-22  5:30   ` war
2001-11-22  5:32     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-22  9:50       ` Christian Bornträger
2001-11-22  8:50 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-22 11:00 ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:00   ` war
2001-11-22 16:08     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:57       ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-22 18:56         ` François Cami
2001-11-22 18:58           ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 19:17             ` François Cami
2001-11-22 19:36               ` G . Sumner Hayes
2001-11-22 20:37                 ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23  6:30       ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-23  9:13         ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23 16:46           ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-22 16:25   ` war
2001-11-22 16:37     ` Ryan Cumming
2001-11-22 17:39     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 17:56       ` war
     [not found] ` <01112211150302.00690@argo>
2001-11-22 16:01   ` war
2001-11-22 16:12     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:36       ` war
2001-11-22 16:33         ` Bjorn Wesen
2001-11-22 17:37         ` Thomas S. Iversen
2001-11-22 21:18           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-11-22 17:41         ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 17:56           ` war
2001-11-22 18:08             ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23 22:05       ` Daniel Gryniewicz

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