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* CML2 1.9.7 is available
@ 2001-12-12  7:35 Eric S. Raymond
  2001-12-12 10:36 ` [kbuild-devel] " Keith Owens
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Raymond @ 2001-12-12  7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, kbuild-devel

Release 1.9.7: Wed Dec 12 02:34:34 EST 2001
	* Rulebase and help sync with 2.4.17-pre8/2.5.1-pre10.
	* Richard Todd corrected an obscure bug in unbinding of dependents.
	* Various small enhancements and cleanups by Richard Todd.
	* Relaxed string length limit in menuconfig.
	* Bug in visiting of choice menus corrected.

Bug queue is empty.
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* Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.9.7 is available
  2001-12-12  7:35 CML2 1.9.7 is available Eric S. Raymond
@ 2001-12-12 10:36 ` Keith Owens
  2001-12-13  8:41   ` Eric S. Raymond
  2001-12-13  8:49   ` Eric S. Raymond
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Keith Owens @ 2001-12-12 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: esr; +Cc: linux-kernel, kbuild-devel

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:35:56 -0500, 
"Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
>Release 1.9.7: Wed Dec 12 02:34:34 EST 2001

Dangling symlink kernel-tree/scripts/tree.py breaks the CML2 install,
rm kernel-tree/scripts/tree.py first.

There are still discrepancies between the output produced by different
forms of make *config.  I am also seeing spurious deduction messages
which may be related or may be a separate problem.

# cd cml2-1.9.7/
# rm kernel-tree/scripts/tree.py
# ./install-cml2 /build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2/
Examining your build environment...
Good. You have Python 2.x installed as 'python2.1' already.
Python looks sane...
Good, your python has curses support linked in.
Good, your python has Tk support linked in.
Compiling file list...
Operating on /build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2...
Installing new files...
Merging in CML2 help texts from Configure.help...
Modifying configuration productions...
You are ready to go, cd to /build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2.
# cd /build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2/
# rm -f .config* config.out* rules.out
# yes '' | make oldconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
/build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2/include
python2 -O scripts/cmlcompile.py rules.cml
Compiling rules, please wait......(15.61 sec) Done.
Using defconfig
python2 -O scripts/cmlconfigure.py -t -DX86 -B 2.4.16 -I config.out  rules.out
Side effects:
ISA=y (deduced from X86)

... oldconfig output skipped

Saving config.out......(0.80 sec) Done.
python2 -O scripts/configtrans.py -h include/linux/autoconf.h -s .config config.out
# cp config.out oldconfig.out
# make menuconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
/build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2/include
python2 -O scripts/cmlconfigure.py -c  -DX86 -B 2.4.16 -i config.out  rules.out
Side effects:
ISA=y (deduced from X86)
Side effects from config.out:
Tristate symbols won't default to M.
SCSI=y (deduced from USB_STORAGE)
BLK_DEV_IDE=y (deduced from BLK_DEV_IDEDISK)
BLK_DEV_IDE=y (deduced from BLK_DEV_IDECD)
PCMCIA=y (deduced from NET_PCMCIA)
NET_ETHERNET=y (deduced from NET_PCMCIA)
UNIX98_PTYS=y (deduced from DEVPTS_FS)

=====

Why are those deduction messages appearing in menuconfig?  I just did
make oldconfig, the config should be stable.  I did not change anything
in menuconfig, just saved it.

=====

# cp config.out menuconfig.out
# diff -u oldconfig.out menuconfig.out
--- oldconfig.out	Wed Dec 12 21:13:26 2001
+++ menuconfig.out	Wed Dec 12 21:13:46 2001
@@ -79,6 +79,7 @@
 CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D=n
 CONFIG_MCYRIXIII=n

+CONFIG_MICROCODE=n
 CONFIG_TOSHIBA=n
 CONFIG_I8K=n
 CONFIG_X86_MSR=n
@@ -92,6 +93,8 @@
 CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=n

 CONFIG_MTRR=y
+CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=n
+CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=n
 CONFIG_MULTIQUAD=n

@@ -144,6 +147,7 @@
 # SCSI disk support
 #
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
+CONFIG_SD_EXTRA_DEVS=40
 CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=n
 CONFIG_ST_EXTRA_DEVS=2
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=n
@@ -389,6 +393,7 @@
 # IDE block devices
 #
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
+CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY=n

 #
 # IDE options -- see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info

=====

Why is the output after menuconfig WITH NO CHANGES different from
the oldconfig that went into menuconfig?

=====

# make menuconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
/build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2/include
python2 -O scripts/cmlconfigure.py -c  -DX86 -B 2.4.16 -i config.out  rules.out
Side effects:
ISA=y (deduced from X86)
Side effects from config.out:
Tristate symbols won't default to M.
SCSI=y (deduced from USB_STORAGE)
BLK_DEV_IDE=y (deduced from BLK_DEV_IDEDISK)
BLK_DEV_IDE=y (deduced from BLK_DEV_IDECD)
PCMCIA=y (deduced from NET_PCMCIA)
NET_ETHERNET=y (deduced from NET_PCMCIA)
UNIX98_PTYS=y (deduced from DEVPTS_FS)

=====

Why are those deductions appearing again?  I checked the input config,
all those options were already set to y.

=====

# make oldconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
/build/kaos/2.4.16-cml2/include
python2 -O scripts/cmlconfigure.py -t -DX86 -B 2.4.16 -I config.out  rules.out
Side effects:
ISA=y (deduced from X86)
Side effects from config.out:
Tristate symbols won't default to M.
SCSI=y (deduced from USB_STORAGE)
BLK_DEV_IDE=y (deduced from BLK_DEV_IDEDISK)
BLK_DEV_IDE=y (deduced from BLK_DEV_IDECD)
PCMCIA=y (deduced from NET_PCMCIA)
NET_ETHERNET=y (deduced from NET_PCMCIA)
UNIX98_PTYS=y (deduced from DEVPTS_FS)

... oldconfig output skipped

Saving config.out......(0.72 sec) Done.
python2 -O scripts/configtrans.py -h include/linux/autoconf.h -s .config config.out
# diff -u config.out menuconfig.out
--- config.out	Wed Dec 12 21:14:35 2001
+++ menuconfig.out	Wed Dec 12 21:13:46 2001
@@ -79,6 +79,7 @@
 CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D=n
 CONFIG_MCYRIXIII=n

+CONFIG_MICROCODE=n
 CONFIG_TOSHIBA=n
 CONFIG_I8K=n
 CONFIG_X86_MSR=n
@@ -92,6 +93,8 @@
 CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=n

 CONFIG_MTRR=y
+CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=n
+CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=n
 CONFIG_MULTIQUAD=n

@@ -144,8 +147,11 @@
 # SCSI disk support
 #
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
+CONFIG_SD_EXTRA_DEVS=40
 CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=n
+CONFIG_ST_EXTRA_DEVS=2
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=n
+CONFIG_SR_EXTRA_DEVS=2
 CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
 CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y
@@ -178,6 +184,7 @@
 CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_EATA=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN=n
+CONFIG_SCSI_FD_MCS=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO=n
@@ -187,6 +194,7 @@
 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710=n
+CONFIG_SCSI_NCR_D700=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=y
 CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_2=n
@@ -197,6 +205,8 @@
 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=4
 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=20
+CONFIG_SCSI_IBMMCA=n
+CONFIG_SCSI_MCA_53C9X=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000=n
 CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I=n
@@ -286,6 +296,7 @@
 CONFIG_USB_CDCETHER=n
 CONFIG_USB_USBNET=n
 CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS=n
+CONFIG_USB_USS720=n
 CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=n
 CONFIG_USB_RIO500=n

@@ -323,6 +334,55 @@

 #
+# Memory Technology Device (MTD) support
+#
+CONFIG_MTD_DEBUG=n
+CONFIG_MTD_PARTITIONS=n
+CONFIG_MTD_CHAR=n
+CONFIG_MTD_BLOCK=n
+CONFIG_FTL=n
+CONFIG_MTD_CFI=n
+CONFIG_MTD_JEDECPROBE=n
+CONFIG_MTD_CFI_ADV_OPTIONS=n
+CONFIG_MTD_CFI_INTELEXT=n
+CONFIG_MTD_CFI_AMDSTD=n
+CONFIG_MTD_SHARP=n
+CONFIG_MTD_RAM=n
+CONFIG_MTD_ROM=n
+CONFIG_MTD_JEDEC=n
+CONFIG_MTD_ABSENT=n
+CONFIG_MTD_OBSOLETE_CHIPS=n
+
+#
+# Drivers for chip mappings
+#
+CONFIG_MTD_PHYSMAP=n
+
+CONFIG_MTD_NORA=n
+CONFIG_MTD_PNC2000=n
+CONFIG_MTD_SC520CDP=n
+CONFIG_MTD_NETSC520=n
+CONFIG_MTD_SBC_GXX=n
+CONFIG_MTD_ELAN_104NC=n
+CONFIG_MTD_SA1100=n
+CONFIG_MTD_DC21285=n
+CONFIG_MTD_IQ80310=n
+CONFIG_MTD_CSTM_MIPS_IXX=n
+CONFIG_MTD_L440GX=n
+CONFIG_MTD_OCELOT=n
+CONFIG_MTD_PMC551=n
+CONFIG_MTD_SLRAM=n
+CONFIG_MTD_LART=n
+CONFIG_MTD_MTDRAM=n
+CONFIG_MTD_BLKMTD=n
+CONFIG_MTD_DOC1000=n
+CONFIG_MTD_DOC2000=n
+CONFIG_MTD_DOC2001=n
+CONFIG_MTD_DOCPROBE_ADVANCED=n
+CONFIG_MTD_NAND=n
+
+
+#
 # Block devices
 #
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
@@ -333,6 +393,7 @@
 # IDE block devices
 #
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
+CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY=n

 #
 # IDE options -- see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info
@@ -391,6 +452,7 @@
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_Q40IDE=n
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MPC8xx_IDE=n

+CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2=n
 CONFIG_AMIGA_Z2RAM=n
 CONFIG_ATARI_ACSI=n
 CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA=n
@@ -426,11 +488,21 @@
 CONFIG_IP_PNP=n
 CONFIG_NET_IPIP=n
 CONFIG_NET_IPGRE=n
+CONFIG_NET_IPGRE_BROADCAST=n
 CONFIG_IP_MROUTE=n
 CONFIG_ARPD=n
 CONFIG_INET_ECN=n
 CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=n

+#
+# IP netfilter configuration
+#
+CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=n
+CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE=n
+CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=n
+CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPCHAINS=n
+
+
 CONFIG_PPP=n
 CONFIG_SLIP=n
 CONFIG_PACKET=y
@@ -464,6 +536,7 @@
 CONFIG_BONDING=n
 CONFIG_TUN=n
 CONFIG_EQUALIZER=n
+CONFIG_ETHERTAP=n
 CONFIG_NET_SB1000=n
 CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y

@@ -500,6 +573,9 @@
 CONFIG_AT1700=n
 CONFIG_DEPCA=n
 CONFIG_HP100=n
+CONFIG_SKMC=n
+CONFIG_NE2_MCA=n
+CONFIG_IBMLANA=n
 CONFIG_E2100=n
 CONFIG_EWRK3=n
 CONFIG_EEXPRESS=n
@@ -516,6 +592,7 @@
 CONFIG_AC3200=n
 CONFIG_DE4X5=n
 CONFIG_DGRS=n
+CONFIG_NE3210=n
 CONFIG_ES3210=n
 CONFIG_PCNET32=n
 CONFIG_ADAPTEC_STARFIRE=n
@@ -524,6 +601,7 @@
 CONFIG_DE2104X=n
 CONFIG_TULIP=n
 CONFIG_EEPRO100=y
+CONFIG_LNE390=n
 CONFIG_FEALNX=n
 CONFIG_NATSEMI=n
 CONFIG_NE2K_PCI=n
@@ -573,6 +651,7 @@
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_XIRC2PS=n
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_AXNET=n
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_IBMTR=n
+CONFIG_PCMCIA_XIRTULIP=n
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_XIRCOM=n
 CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA_RADIO=y
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_RAYCS=y
@@ -583,6 +662,23 @@

+#
+# ATM drivers
+#
+CONFIG_ATM_TCP=n
+CONFIG_ATM_LANAI=n
+CONFIG_ATM_ENI=n
+CONFIG_ATM_ZATM=n
+CONFIG_ATM_FIRESTREAM=n
+CONFIG_ATM_NICSTAR=n
+CONFIG_ATM_IDT77252=n
+CONFIG_ATM_AMBASSADOR=n
+CONFIG_ATM_HORIZON=n
+CONFIG_ATM_IA=n
+CONFIG_ATM_FORE200E_MAYBE=n
+CONFIG_PPPOATM=n
+
+

 #
 # Sound, ham radio, and telephony
@@ -609,6 +705,7 @@
 CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT=n
 CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS=n
 CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN=n
+CONFIG_MSND_FIFOSIZE=128
 CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=n
 CONFIG_DMASOUND=n
 CONFIG_SOUND_TVMIXER=n
@@ -636,6 +733,8 @@
 CONFIG_ATOMWIDE_SERIAL=n
 CONFIG_DUALSP_SERIAL=n
 CONFIG_SERIAL_ACPI=n
+CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED=n
+CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD=n
 CONFIG_SMC2_UART=n
 CONFIG_USE_SCC_IO=n
 CONFIG_SUN3X_ZS=n
@@ -724,6 +823,7 @@
 # QIC tape support
 #
 CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE=n
+CONFIG_QIC02_DYNCONF=n
 CONFIG_FTAPE=n
 CONFIG_FT_NR_BUFFERS=3
 CONFIG_FT_PROC_FS=n

=====

OUCH!  The output from make menuconfig has significantly more options
than make oldconfig when given exactly the same input.  I thought one
of the selling points for CML2 was different front ends but with
identical back end processing.  I don't like the way that the resulting
config varies when fed to different front ends.

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* Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.9.7 is available
  2001-12-12 10:36 ` [kbuild-devel] " Keith Owens
@ 2001-12-13  8:41   ` Eric S. Raymond
  2001-12-13  8:49   ` Eric S. Raymond
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Raymond @ 2001-12-13  8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith Owens; +Cc: linux-kernel, kbuild-devel

Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>:
> Dangling symlink kernel-tree/scripts/tree.py breaks the CML2 install,
> rm kernel-tree/scripts/tree.py first.

Fixed.
 
> There are still discrepancies between the output produced by different
> forms of make *config.  I am also seeing spurious deduction messages
> which may be related or may be a separate problem.

Separate problem. 

> Why are those deduction messages appearing in menuconfig?  I just did
> make oldconfig, the config should be stable.  I did not change anything
> in menuconfig, just saved it.

The deduction messages are happening because the side-effect forcing
logic fires whenever a symbol is set.  It has no way of knowing
whether or not the forced symbol will occur later in the config being read.
This 

> Why is the output after menuconfig WITH NO CHANGES different from
> the oldconfig that went into menuconfig?

I think it's because of the different timing of menu visits (forcing computation
of choice-menu defaults at different times).  I'm going to run some experiments
to see if I can pin this down.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

"The state calls its own violence `law', but that of the individual `crime'"
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* Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.9.7 is available
  2001-12-12 10:36 ` [kbuild-devel] " Keith Owens
  2001-12-13  8:41   ` Eric S. Raymond
@ 2001-12-13  8:49   ` Eric S. Raymond
  2001-12-13 16:29     ` Bjorn Helgaas
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Raymond @ 2001-12-13  8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith Owens; +Cc: linux-kernel, kbuild-devel

Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>:
> OUCH!  The output from make menuconfig has significantly more options
> than make oldconfig when given exactly the same input.  I thought one
> of the selling points for CML2 was different front ends but with
> identical back end processing.  I don't like the way that the resulting
> config varies when fed to different front ends.

Not a big deal -- all the produced config.outs are logically equivalent.
Your differences all consist of symbols saved out as n in one version and not
saved at all in the other.  It *would* be serious cause for alarm if that
were not the case.

The simplification in the saveability-predicate logic I just did for
1.9.8 made may help solve this problem.
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.. a government and its agents are under no general duty to 
provide public services, such as police protection, to any 
particular individual citizen...
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* Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.9.7 is available
  2001-12-13  8:49   ` Eric S. Raymond
@ 2001-12-13 16:29     ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2001-12-13 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: esr, Keith Owens; +Cc: linux-kernel, kbuild-devel

On Thursday 13 December 2001 1:49 am, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>:
> > OUCH!  The output from make menuconfig has significantly more options
> > than make oldconfig when given exactly the same input.  I thought one
> > of the selling points for CML2 was different front ends but with
> > identical back end processing.  I don't like the way that the
> > resulting config varies when fed to different front ends.
>
> Not a big deal -- all the produced config.outs are logically equivalent.

Not a big deal in theory, maybe, but it is very convenient to use diff to 
compare .config files, and diff doesn't know about logical equivalence.

-- 
Bjorn Helgaas - bjorn_helgaas@hp.com
Linux Systems Operation R&D
Hewlett-Packard

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