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From: Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT wierd behavior..
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:20:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011217202056.L31706@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011217195312.K31706@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112171156380.1380-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112171156380.1380-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:59:56AM -0800

On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:59:56AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Joel Becker wrote:
> > 	/* Smart program handles partial writes */
> > 	write(100k); = 50k
> > 	write(remaining 50k); = -1/ENOSPC|EIO|etc
> 
> We do this, if the error is "hard". And "fatal" implies hardness, so we're
> ok here.

	Right.  "hard" is also synonymous with "non-transient".

> > 	/* Dumb program doesn't handle partial write */
> > 	write(100k); = 50k
> > 	close(fd); = -1/EIO
> 
> But we're not doing this.

	IMHO we should be, and not just to comply with the letter of
SUS/Unix98.  SUS specifies this behavior because a synchronous write()
can return after copying data to the buffer cache.  However, the EIO can
happen later when the buffer cache is trying to flush to disk.  The only
way for an application to see this error is to either run O_SYNC or
receive it upon close().

Joel

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-17 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-16  0:47 O_DIRECT wierd behavior Suresh Gopalakrishnan
2001-12-16  5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-16  8:17   ` GOTO Masanori
2001-12-16  8:46     ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-16  9:20       ` Suresh Gopalakrishnan
2001-12-16 13:57         ` Terje Eggestad
2001-12-16 17:43           ` Suresh Gopalakrishnan
2001-12-17  9:04             ` Terje Eggestad
2001-12-17 17:18     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-17 18:07       ` Hugh Dickins
2001-12-17 18:13         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-12-17 18:57         ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-17 19:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 19:53             ` Joel Becker
2001-12-17 19:59               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 20:20                 ` Joel Becker [this message]
2001-12-17 20:38                   ` Andre Hedrick
2001-12-26 14:54             ` Riley Williams
2001-12-16  6:29 ` GOTO Masanori
2002-01-20  4:16 ` multithreaded RPC handling Suresh Gopalakrishnan

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