From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
Subject: Re: Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) ...
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:25:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011218102526.A736@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011217205547.C821@holomorphy.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112172153410.2416-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112172153410.2416-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:09:22PM -0800
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:09:22PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Well, looking at the issue, the problem is probably not just in the sb
> driver: the soundblaster driver shares the output buffer code with a
> number of other drivers (there's some horrible "dmabuf.c" code in common).
> And yes, the dmabuf code will wake up the writer on every single DMA
> complete interrupt. Considering that you seem to have them at least 400
> times a second (and probably more, unless you've literally had sound going
> since the machine was booted), I think we know why your setup spends time
> in the scheduler.
> A number of sound drivers will use the same logic.
I've chucked the sb32 and plugged in the emu10k1 I had been planning
to install for a while, to good effect. It's not an ISA sb16, but it
apparently uses the same driver.
I'm getting an overall 1% reduction in system load, and the following
"top 5" profile:
53374 total 0.0400
11430 default_idle 238.1250
8820 handle_IRQ_event 91.8750
2186 do_softirq 10.5096
1984 schedule 1.2525
1612 number 1.4816
1473 __generic_copy_to_user 18.4125
Oddly, I'm getting even more interrupts than I saw with the sb32...
0: 2752924 XT-PIC timer
9: 14223905 XT-PIC EMU10K1, eth1
(eth1 generates orders of magnitude fewer interrupts than the timer)
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:09:22PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> You may be able to change this more easily some other way, by using a
> larger fragment size for example. That's up to the sw that actually feeds
> the sound stream, so it might be your decoder that selects a small
> fragment size.
> Quite frankly I don't know the sound infrastructure well enough to make
> any more intelligent suggestions about other decoders or similar to try,
> at this point I just start blathering.
Already more insight into the problem I was experiencing than I had
before, and I must confess to those such as myself this lead certainly
seems "plucked out of the air". Good work! =)
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:09:22PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> But yes, I bet you'll also see much less impact of this if you were to
> switch to more modern hardware.
I hear from elsewhere the emu10k1 has a bad reputation as source of
excessive interrupts. Looks like I bought the wrong sound card(s).
Maybe I should go shopping. =)
Thanks a bunch!
Bill
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20011217200946.D753@holomorphy.com>
2001-12-18 4:27 ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 4:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2001-12-18 6:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 6:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-18 12:23 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 14:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 15:51 ` Martin Josefsson
2001-12-18 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 16:16 ` Roger Larsson
2001-12-18 17:16 ` Herman Oosthuysen
2001-12-18 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 17:21 ` David Mansfield
2001-12-18 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 17:54 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-18 18:27 ` Doug Ledford
2001-12-18 18:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-18 19:03 ` Doug Ledford
2001-12-19 9:19 ` Peter Wächtler
2001-12-19 11:05 ` Helge Hafting
2001-12-21 20:23 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-18 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 18:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 19:31 ` Gerd Knorr
2001-12-18 18:25 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2001-12-18 14:21 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-12-18 18:13 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112181508001.3410-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-12-20 3:50 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-20 4:04 ` Ryan Cumming
2001-12-20 5:39 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-20 5:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 6:01 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-20 22:40 ` Troels Walsted Hansen
2001-12-20 23:55 ` Chris Ricker
2001-12-20 23:59 ` CaT
2001-12-21 0:06 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 11:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-20 11:34 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-20 5:52 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] <20011218020456.A11541@redhat.com>
2001-12-18 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 16:56 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 21:02 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:14 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:17 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:19 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 21:30 ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:18 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-19 16:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-18 19:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-12-18 19:15 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 17:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 19:43 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 5:59 V Ganesh
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-18 5:11 Thierry Forveille
2001-12-17 21:41 ` John Heil
2001-12-18 14:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-16 0:13 Just a second Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 22:48 ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Davide Libenzi
2001-12-17 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 23:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-17 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 23:39 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-17 23:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-18 1:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 1:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-18 5:54 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-18 6:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 1:54 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 2:51 ` David Lang
2001-12-18 3:08 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 3:19 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 14:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 9:12 ` John Heil
2001-12-18 15:34 ` degger
2001-12-18 18:35 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-18 18:48 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 16:50 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-18 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 17:50 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 19:17 ` Alan Cox
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