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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: bcrl@redhat.com
Cc: torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org
Subject: Re: aio
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:13:59 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011219.161359.71089731.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011219135708.A12608@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <E16Gjuw-0000UT-00@starship.berlin> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112190859050.1872-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <20011219135708.A12608@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

   From: Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:57:08 -0500
   
   Thanks for the useful feedback on the userland interface then.  Evidently 
   nobody cares within the community about improving functionality on a 
   reasonable timescale.  If this doesn't change soon, Linux is doomed.

Maybe it's because the majority of people don't care nor would ever
need to use AIO.  Are you willing to accept this possibly? :-) Linux
is anything but doomed, because you will notice that the things that
actually matter for most people are in fact improved and worked on
within a reasonable timescale.

Only very specialized applications can even benefit from AIO.  This
doesn't make it useless, but it does decrease the amount of interest
(and priority) anyone in the community will have in working on it.

Now, if these few and far between people who are actually interested
in AIO are willing to throw money at the problem to get it worked on,
that is how the "reasonable timescale" will be arrived at.  And if
they aren't willing to toss money at the problem, how important can it
really be to them? :-)

Maybe, just maybe, most people simply do not care one iota about AIO.

Linux caters to the general concerns not the nooks and cranies, that
is why it is anything but doomed.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-20  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20011218020456.A11541@redhat.com>
2001-12-18 16:50 ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 16:56   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 17:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 19:04       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 21:02         ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:14           ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:17             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:19               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 21:30               ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:18           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-19 17:44           ` IRC (was: Scheduler) Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 17:51             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-19 18:24               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 18:19             ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-19 18:27               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 18:40               ` J Sloan
2001-12-19 16:50         ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Daniel Phillips
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112190859050.1872-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-12-19 18:57             ` aio Ben LaHaise
2001-12-19 19:29               ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-20  4:04                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-19 20:09               ` aio Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 20:21               ` aio Davide Libenzi
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1008792601.3391.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-19 20:23                 ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20  0:13               ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-12-20  0:21                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  0:36                   ` aio Andrew Morton
2001-12-20  0:55                     ` aio H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-20  0:47                   ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20  1:16                 ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  1:20                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  2:26                     ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  2:45                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-19 18:57                         ` aio John Heil
2001-12-20  3:06                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-19 19:30                             ` aio John Heil
2001-12-20  5:29                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  3:21                             ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-27  9:36                               ` aio Martin Dalecki
2001-12-20  3:07                         ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  3:13                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  3:47                             ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  5:39                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:58                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:00                                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:46                                     ` aio Mike Castle
2001-12-20  6:55                                       ` aio Robert Love
2001-12-20  7:13                                         ` aio Mike Castle
2001-12-20  7:01                                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  7:27                                 ` aio Daniel Phillips
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201127400.2656-100000@localhost.localdomain>
2001-12-20 11:49                                   ` aio William Lee Irwin III
2001-12-20 16:32                                   ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-20 18:05                                     ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 21:45                                   ` aio Lincoln Dale
2001-12-20 21:59                                     ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-24 11:44                                       ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-20 23:02                                     ` aio Lincoln Dale
2001-12-21 17:24                               ` aio Alan Cox
2001-12-21 17:16                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-23  5:35                                   ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20 14:38                             ` aio Luigi Genoni
2001-12-20 17:26                             ` aio Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-20 20:04                               ` aio M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-20 23:53                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-21  0:28                                 ` Offtopic Java/C# [Re: aio] Bill Huey
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.1008817860.10606.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-20  5:16                           ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20 16:16                         ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-21 11:44                           ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-21 13:48                             ` aio Ingo Molnar
2001-12-21 15:27                               ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-24 11:08                                 ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-20 17:24                         ` aio Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-20  2:37                     ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20  2:47                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  2:52                         ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20  2:58                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:47                             ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20  5:57                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:59                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:02                                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:07                                     ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:12                                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:23                                         ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 10:18                                           ` aio Ingo Molnar
2001-12-20 18:20                                             ` aio Robert Love
2001-12-20 22:30                                               ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20 22:46                                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:09                                     ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 17:28                                       ` aio Suparna Bhattacharya
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.1008816001.10138.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-20  5:07                       ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20  5:10                         ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-21 17:28                     ` aio Alan Cox
2001-12-23  5:46                       ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-23  6:34                         ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-23 18:43                           ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-26 20:42                         ` Java and Flam^H^H^H^H AIO (was: aio) Daniel Phillips
2001-12-18 19:11       ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Mike Galbraith
2001-12-18 19:15       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 22:32         ` in defense of the linux-kernel mailing list Ingo Molnar
2001-12-18 17:55   ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 19:43   ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-20  2:56 aio Mikael Pettersson

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