From: Kent Borg <kentborg@borg.org>
To: lk@Aniela.EU.ORG
Cc: Mike Harrold <mharrold@cas.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
nknight@pocketinet.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help.
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:12:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011221141257.R3736@borg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011221134150.O3736@borg.org> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112212048230.4311-100000@ns1.Aniela.EU.ORG>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112212048230.4311-100000@ns1.Aniela.EU.ORG>; from lk@Aniela.EU.ORG on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 08:49:44PM +0200
On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 08:49:44PM +0200, lk@Aniela.EU.ORG wrote:
> If you would pay more attention, you can see that on most drives there is
> a small note that says: 1MB = 1000000 bytes. This is why the drive
> capacity is smaller than the manufacturer says.
So you are saying that my "12GB" drive is 12,000,000,000 bytes instead
of 12,884,901,888 bytes?
The drive in the notebook I am typing on now seems to be neither. If
I am doing arithmetic and reading hdparm output right, I think it is
12,072,517,632 bytes (smaller once formatted). Not a very round
decimal number.
My point was that big round decimal numbers are rare in computers, so
why do we suddenly need big round decimal units for talking about
computers?
Disk drives have inherently binary capacities, the only reason to
quote their capacities in decimal was to make them look bigger. I
don't see why we should have new units to make that easier. This is
particularly ironic when disk manufacturers are so good at making them
bigger at a pace that has seriously out-paced Moore's Law.
-kb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-21 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-20 18:36 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel p Dana Lacoste
2001-12-20 19:13 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-20 19:41 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Mike Harrold
2001-12-21 16:59 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-21 17:50 ` Mike Harrold
2001-12-21 18:41 ` Kent Borg
2001-12-21 18:49 ` lk
2001-12-21 19:12 ` Kent Borg [this message]
2001-12-22 4:51 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-12-20 19:43 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel p David Weinehall
2001-12-20 23:12 ` [OT] " Wilfried Weissmann
2001-12-20 23:13 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-20 23:03 ` ncw
2001-12-22 7:52 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2001-12-22 12:53 ` Jeff Mcadams
2001-12-22 15:03 ` Dirk Moerenhout
2001-12-22 15:20 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel Alan Cox
2001-12-22 16:10 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-22 17:43 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel p mirabilos {Thorsten Glaser}
2001-12-22 22:21 ` Vojtech Pavlik
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203181358540.25105-100000@router.windsormac hine.com>
2002-03-19 14:20 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Pete Cervasio
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2002-03-18 11:31 Nayyer Tiger
2002-03-18 16:12 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-03-18 16:36 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-18 13:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-18 17:38 ` Jakob Kemi
2002-03-18 18:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-18 18:35 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-18 19:00 ` Mike Dresser
2002-03-18 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-18 19:31 ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-18 22:04 ` Mike Dresser
2002-03-18 22:12 ` Mike Dresser
2002-03-19 11:48 ` Remco Post
2002-03-18 17:04 ` Steven Cole
2002-01-08 21:24 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB =?iso-8859-1?q?in Configure=2Ehelp=2E?= Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-08 21:29 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-08 22:15 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-08 23:03 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-23 9:18 Per Jessen
2001-12-23 16:34 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-22 23:22 Per Jessen
2001-12-23 7:21 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-23 13:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22 8:39 matthew david reuther
2002-01-08 21:18 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-12-22 2:51 Thomas Hood
2001-12-21 22:55 Stuart Lynne
2001-12-21 19:55 Per Jessen
[not found] ` <by>
2001-12-22 1:48 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 4:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22 4:49 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 7:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22 18:22 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 19:54 ` Derek Fawcus
2001-12-22 2:11 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 4:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22 4:55 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-22 5:29 ` Ryan Cumming
2001-12-22 5:53 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 22:41 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in?Configure.help Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-22 10:53 ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-12-21 11:44 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Christian Groessler
2001-12-21 12:50 ` Rene Engelhard
2001-12-21 14:40 ` Reid Hekman
2001-12-21 14:48 ` Rene Engelhard
2001-12-26 19:04 ` Riley Williams
2001-12-21 15:48 ` Mike Jagdis
2001-12-21 16:07 ` Rene Engelhard
2001-12-21 17:43 ` Bob Glamm
2001-12-21 20:50 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-12-20 19:25 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-20 21:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-12-21 23:05 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-20 18:02 Steven Cole
2001-12-20 18:16 ` Matt Bernstein
2001-12-20 18:42 ` Randolph Bentson
2001-12-20 19:00 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-20 19:07 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-20 18:47 ` Michael Dunsky
2001-12-20 19:00 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-21 1:44 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-20 18:26 ` Robert Love
2001-12-20 18:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-20 19:32 ` Steven Cole
2001-12-20 19:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-20 20:40 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2001-12-20 20:32 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-12-20 21:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-12-20 21:14 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-12-20 21:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-20 22:49 ` Mike Eldridge
2001-12-21 10:58 ` Mike Jagdis
2001-12-26 18:59 ` Riley Williams
2002-01-02 17:17 ` Jonathan Amery
2002-01-02 20:17 ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-03 4:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-03 15:46 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-24 13:39 ` Lionel Bouton
2001-12-25 11:25 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-25 20:14 ` Lionel Bouton
2001-12-20 19:49 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-22 10:24 ` Pozsar Balazs
2001-12-22 10:47 ` Phil Howard
2001-12-24 13:21 ` Ian Molton
2001-12-22 11:30 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-22 20:18 ` Pozsar Balazs
2001-12-23 5:39 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-22 16:03 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-23 10:43 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-23 12:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-23 16:24 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-24 12:37 ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-28 10:25 ` Kai Henningsen
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