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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Krzysztof Oledzki <ole@ans.pl>
Cc: Brian <hiryuu@envisiongames.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Two hdds on one channel - why so slow?
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:41:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020102194150.A14140@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0GPA00BK988OBK@mtaout45-01.icomcast.net> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201021808490.9573-100000@dark.pcgames.pl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201021808490.9573-100000@dark.pcgames.pl>; from ole@ans.pl on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 06:21:25PM +0100

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 06:21:25PM +0100, Krzysztof Oledzki wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Brian wrote:
> 
> > This is an inherent quirk (SCSI folks would say brain damage) in IDE.
> >
> > Only one drive on an IDE chain may be accessed at once and only one
> > request may go to that drive at a time.  Therefore, the maximum you could
> > hope for in that test is half speed on each.  Throw in the overhead of
> > continuously hopping between them and 12MB is no surprise.
> 
> So?!? This ATA100 and ATA133 standards do not make any sens? It is not
> possible to have more than 66 MB/sec with on drive and is seems that it is
> not possible to use more than ~30MB/sek of 100 or 133 MB/sec ATA100/133
> bus speed with two HDDs. Oh :(((
> 
> Another question - why ATA100/ATA66 HDDs are so slow with UDMA33?
> With new IBM 60 GB IC35L060AVER07-0 I have much more than 33 MB/sec with
> ATA100 and only 24 MB/sec with UDMA33 (Asus P2B with IntelBX). New 80GB Seagates
> (Baracuda IV) have the same problem.

Actually 24 MB/sec is quite a miracle with UDMA33. I'd expect values
around 16 MB/sec. Because, as far as I know, unlike SCSI, IDE doesn't do
concurrent reads and transfers (except for readahead), effectively
halving the interface transfer speed.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-02 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-01 22:34 Two hdds on one channel - why so slow? Krzysztof Oledzki
2002-01-01 23:07 ` Brian
2002-01-01 23:32   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-02  0:52     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02  1:19       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-01-02  1:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02  2:03           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-01-02  4:13             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-02 17:21   ` Krzysztof Oledzki
2002-01-02 18:41     ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2002-01-02 19:31     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-02 20:23       ` Brian
2002-01-02 23:30         ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-03  1:52           ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-03  5:57             ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-04  2:54             ` Petro
2002-01-04  3:04               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-04  4:29               ` ASUS KT266A/VT8233 board and UDMA setting Dmitri Pogosyan
2002-01-04  9:25                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 10:35                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-04 10:28                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-04 11:20                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-04 13:37                         ` Ville Herva
2002-01-04 16:48                           ` David Rees
2002-01-04 17:00                           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-05 19:20                     ` Dmitri Pogosyan
2002-01-05  7:20                   ` Dmitri Pogosyan
2002-01-04 18:19             ` Two hdds on one channel - why so slow? Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-04 18:38               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-04 18:30                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-05  0:52                 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-01-05  9:41                   ` Nick Holloway
2002-01-05 12:04                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-01-05  1:28                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-08 23:59                   ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-09  0:10                     ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-09 15:27                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-09 16:25                       ` MTBF Was: " Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-08 23:46                 ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-07  8:11             ` Stevie O
2002-01-07 15:57               ` Thomas Molina
2002-01-07 16:14                 ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-07 16:40                   ` Thomas Molina
2002-01-07 22:23                     ` Ancient Memories [was: Two hdds on one channel - why so slow?] Edesio Costa e Silva
2002-01-07 23:18                       ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-01-07 18:48                   ` Two hdds on one channel - why so slow? Andre Hedrick
2002-01-07 20:19               ` Petro
2002-01-07 22:31                 ` Dmitri Pogosyan
2002-01-08 13:50                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-08 14:45                   ` Mike Dresser
2002-01-08 14:57                     ` James A Sutherland
2002-01-08 17:15                   ` Wakko Warner
2002-01-02 21:23       ` Jeffrey W. Baker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-03 15:49 Dana Lacoste
2002-01-03 16:44 ` Mark Hahn
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201021452120.8693-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-01-04  9:28 ` Krzysztof Oledzki
2002-01-04 14:02 Jesse Pollard
2002-01-04 16:33 ` Bernd Eckenfels
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.43.0201041154010.14678-100000@filesrv1.baby-dragons.com>
2002-01-04 17:14     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-01-04 17:22       ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-04 18:40         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-01-04 19:32           ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2002-01-05 12:02             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-01-04 20:29           ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-08 23:49           ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-09  0:50             ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-09  1:22               ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-04 17:40   ` Jesse Pollard
2002-01-08 12:41     ` Rob Landley
2002-01-08 21:18       ` William Park
2002-01-09 10:56         ` Rob Landley
2002-01-09 19:50           ` William Park
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201040844130.14385-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-01-04 17:18 ` Krzysztof Oledzki
2002-01-04 19:29 Dana Lacoste
2002-01-05 11:58 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-01-05 12:20   ` Petro
2002-01-09  0:04   ` Ricky Beam
2002-01-07 17:06 Jesse Pollard
2002-01-07 17:17 ` Tommy Reynolds

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