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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Matthew Kirkwood <matthew@hairy.beasts.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: initramfs programs (was [RFC] klibc requirements)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:29:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020109182902.A2804@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020109174637.A1742@thyrsus.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201092325280.31502-100000@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201092325280.31502-100000@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com>; from matthew@hairy.beasts.org on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:29:29PM +0000

Matthew Kirkwood <matthew@hairy.beasts.org>:
> > We've been over this already.  No, the configurator user should *not*
> > have to su at any point before actual kernel installation.  Bad
> > practice, no doughnut.
> 
> Why bad practice?  Anyway, you can:
> 
> 	if [ /proc/ -nt /var/run/dmidecode ]; then
> 		echo We need to run some code as root.
> 		echo -n Enter root\'s\
> 		su -c 'dmidecode > /var/run/dmidecode'
> 	fi
> 
> Which provides at least a way to have your config tool
> work without having to bloat the initramfs.

OK.  One more time.

The autoconfigurator is *not* mean to be run at boot time, or as root.

It is intended to be run by ordinary users, after system boot time.
This is so they can configure and experimentally build kernels without
incurring the "oops..." risks of going root.

Therefore, the above 'solution' is not acceptable.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing 
which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety, 
is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made 
and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. 
	-- John Stuart Mill, writing on the U.S. Civil War in 1862

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-09 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-09 20:05 initramfs programs (was [RFC] klibc requirements) Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-09 20:43 ` Doug McNaught
2002-01-09 20:44   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-09 21:01     ` Doug McNaught
2002-01-09 22:07     ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-09 21:56       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-09 23:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-09 23:30         ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-12  5:31     ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-09 20:55 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-01-09 20:47   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-09 22:41     ` Matthew Kirkwood
2002-01-09 22:46       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-09 23:28         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-10  0:21           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-10 11:21             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-09 23:29         ` Matthew Kirkwood
2002-01-09 23:29           ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2002-01-09 23:54             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-10 10:35             ` Matthew Kirkwood
2002-01-12  5:36             ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-12 18:11 ` Oliver Xymoron
     [not found] <fa.gs2ktfv.1r00h12@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.kj79fuv.1angmqd@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-10 17:13   ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-10 17:28     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-10 17:32       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-10 17:43         ` Dave Jones
2002-01-10 17:44           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-10 17:47             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-10 17:37     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-10 17:27       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] <fa.d7rnnnv.1l1gnri@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.p5gg3pv.1iiscrg@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-10 11:22   ` Giacomo Catenazzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-09 20:25 Torrey Hoffman
2002-01-10  0:02 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-09 17:54 Torrey Hoffman
2002-01-09 18:06 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-09 18:28 ` Greg KH
2002-01-09 18:49   ` Tom Rini
2002-01-08 19:24 [RFC] klibc requirements Greg KH
2002-01-09  4:23 ` Felix von Leitner
2002-01-09  4:34   ` initramfs programs (was [RFC] klibc requirements) Greg KH
2002-01-09  6:10     ` Greg KH
2002-01-09  7:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-09  9:33     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-01-09 10:00     ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-09 10:38   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-09 15:56     ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-09 16:04       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-01-09 16:26         ` Greg KH
2002-01-09 16:29         ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-09 16:48           ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-09 21:15     ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-09 21:34     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-09 21:40       ` Greg KH
2002-01-09 21:55       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-09 22:15         ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-10  0:25           ` Tom Rini
2002-01-10  0:38             ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-10  2:42               ` Tom Rini
2002-01-10 14:09                 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-10 22:24                   ` Tom Rini
2002-01-11  0:15                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-09 22:12       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel

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