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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@baby-dragons.com>,
	Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Hardwired drivers are going away?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:10:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020114131050.E14747@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0201141254001.3238-100000@filesrv1.baby-dragons.com> <E16QBX6-0002Op-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E16QBX6-0002Op-00@the-village.bc.nu>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 06:08:32PM +0000

Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>:
> For 2.5 if things go to plan there will be no such thing as a "compiled in"
> driver. They simply are not needed with initramfs holding what were once the
> "compiled in" modules.

This is something of a bombshell.  Not necessarily a bad one, but...

Alan, do you have *any* *freakin'* *idea* how much more complicated
the CML2 deduction engine had to be because the basic logical entity
was a tristate rather than a bool?  If this plan goes through, I'm
going to be able to drop out at least 20% of the code, with most of
that 20% being in the nasty complicated bits where the maintainability
improvement will be greatest.  And I can get rid of the nasty "vitality"
flag, which probably the worst wart on the language.

Yowza...so how soon is this supposed to happen?
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Government should be weak, amateurish and ridiculous. At present, it
fulfills only a third of the role.	-- Edward Abbey

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-14 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.dardpev.1m1emjp@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 10:14 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:10           ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2002-01-14 18:50             ` Hardwired drivers are going away? David Lang
2002-01-14 19:04               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:57                 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:03                   ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-14 19:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 10:45                   ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 11:13                     ` crispin
2002-01-15 14:25                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:00                 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:17                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:14                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:37                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:28                         ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:44                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:09                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:49                         ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-14 20:55                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:51                       ` Ian Molton
2002-01-14 22:11                         ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:12                           ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 23:17                             ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:22                           ` Ian Molton
2002-01-15  0:40                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-14 19:54                     ` David Lang
2002-01-15 17:27                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 17:47                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 19:48                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 12:39                   ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-18 22:20                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-18 23:22                       ` Keith Owens
2002-01-20 23:20                         ` Frank van de Pol
2002-01-21  0:54                           ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21  3:49                             ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21  4:45                               ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21  5:12                                 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21  1:06                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21  1:07                           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-21  1:30                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  1:53                               ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  2:04                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  2:25                                   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  2:56                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  3:43                                       ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  4:24                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  3:44                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 20:57                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-21  2:13                                 ` John Levon
2002-01-21  2:31                                   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 23:52                                     ` Thomas Zimmerman
2002-01-21  9:34                               ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 14:29                                 ` John Levon
2002-01-21  1:31                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-14 19:27               ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 17:24               ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 18:17                 ` David Lang
2002-01-15 19:25                   ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 19:44                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-14 18:54             ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:56             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:39               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:09             ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 14:19               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:33                 ` Greg KH
2002-01-15 11:35                 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-15 15:34                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 19:24               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:17               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:57                 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:51                 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 22:18                 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15 19:20                 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16  9:00                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:12               ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-09  0:19             ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-14 17:59       ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35         ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20020115025840.11509.qmail@science.horizon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-15 12:16 ` Hardwired drivers are going away? Andi Kleen
2002-01-15  2:58 peter
2002-01-15 12:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 12:39   ` David S. Miller
2002-01-15 18:39     ` Rob Landley
     [not found] <mailman.1011034621.1626.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-01-14 23:33 ` Pete Zaitcev
     [not found] <fa.g055bvv.qmq0hk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <ksahkuv.tg60gl@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 22:22   ` Chris Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-05  0:39 module unresolved symbols rich+ml
2001-08-05  0:49 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-08-05  0:51 ` Steven Walter
2001-08-05  1:48 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-05 16:06   ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-06 11:18     ` Keith Owens

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