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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	babydr@baby-dragons.com, cate@debian.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hardwired drivers are going away?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:12:56 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020115101256.33f1bafa.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0201141337580.224-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20020114131050.E14747@thyrsus.com> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0201141337580.224-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:09:16 -0500 (EST)
Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu> wrote:
> Two technical obstacles:
> 	a) on some architecures modular code is slower (IIRC, the problem is
> with medium-range calls being faster than far ones and usable only in the
> kernel proper).  We probaly want to leave a gap after the .text and remap
> .text of module in there - if I understand the problem that should be
> enough, but that's really a question to folks dealing with these ports (PPC64
> and Itanic?)

Sparc64 has a special allocator.  PPC32 is not so lucky, and if the module
doesn't end up under 32MB we use trampolines (PLT in the ppc parlance).
PPC64 has similar issues.

> 	b) current differences between options parsing in case of built-in
> and modular drivers.

I have a patch for this, of course, but it's tied to my replacement module
loader:

	http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/patches/Module/param.patch.bz2

Cheers!
Rusty.
-- 
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-14 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.dardpev.1m1emjp@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 10:14 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:10           ` Hardwired drivers are going away? Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:50             ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:04               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:57                 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:03                   ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-14 19:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 10:45                   ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 11:13                     ` crispin
2002-01-15 14:25                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:00                 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:17                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:14                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:37                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:28                         ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:44                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:09                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:49                         ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-14 20:55                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:51                       ` Ian Molton
2002-01-14 22:11                         ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:12                           ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 23:17                             ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:22                           ` Ian Molton
2002-01-15  0:40                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-14 19:54                     ` David Lang
2002-01-15 17:27                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 17:47                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 19:48                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 12:39                   ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-18 22:20                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-18 23:22                       ` Keith Owens
2002-01-20 23:20                         ` Frank van de Pol
2002-01-21  0:54                           ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21  3:49                             ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21  4:45                               ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21  5:12                                 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21  1:06                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21  1:07                           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-21  1:30                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  1:53                               ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  2:04                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  2:25                                   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  2:56                                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  3:43                                       ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  4:24                                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  3:44                                     ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 20:57                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-21  2:13                                 ` John Levon
2002-01-21  2:31                                   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 23:52                                     ` Thomas Zimmerman
2002-01-21  9:34                               ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 14:29                                 ` John Levon
2002-01-21  1:31                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-14 19:27               ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 17:24               ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 18:17                 ` David Lang
2002-01-15 19:25                   ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 19:44                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-14 18:54             ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:56             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:39               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:09             ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 14:19               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:33                 ` Greg KH
2002-01-15 11:35                 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-15 15:34                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 19:24               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:17               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:57                 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:51                 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 22:18                 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15 19:20                 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16  9:00                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:12               ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2002-02-09  0:19             ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-14 17:59       ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35         ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20020115025840.11509.qmail@science.horizon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-15 12:16 ` Hardwired drivers are going away? Andi Kleen
2002-01-15  2:58 peter
2002-01-15 12:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 12:39   ` David S. Miller
2002-01-15 18:39     ` Rob Landley
     [not found] <mailman.1011034621.1626.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-01-14 23:33 ` Pete Zaitcev
     [not found] <fa.g055bvv.qmq0hk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <ksahkuv.tg60gl@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 22:22   ` Chris Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-05  0:39 module unresolved symbols rich+ml
2001-08-05  0:49 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-08-05  0:51 ` Steven Walter
2001-08-05  1:48 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-05 16:06   ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-06 11:18     ` Keith Owens

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