From: Andreas Ferber <aferber@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: David Garfield <garfield@irving.iisd.sra.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Query about initramfs and modules
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:29:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020116202958.E18039@devcon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15428.47094.435181.278715@irving.iisd.sra.com> <20020115233437.GC29020@kroah.com> <15428.49056.652466.414438@irving.iisd.sra.com> <20020116000117.GD29020@kroah.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020116000117.GD29020@kroah.com>; from greg@kroah.com on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 04:01:17PM -0800
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 04:01:17PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
>
> This also solves the "coldplug" problem, where you need to load
> pci/usb/foobus drivers _after_ init has started. To do this you need to
> rely on scanning the busses from userspace and loading the needed
> drivers. Why reimplement this scanning logic, as the kernel already did
> all of this (and usually did a much better job at it) during the boot
> process before init started.
Hmm. AFAICS this also implies that one would have to put /all/ drivers
for /any/ hardware possibly plugged in at boot time on the initramfs.
Or will /sbin/hotplug provide the ability to just put requests it
can't resolve with the modules on the initramfs into some sort of
queue file, which is read by /sbin/coldplug (or whatever) later on in
the boot process to load drivers for those from the real root fs?
> And this allows lots of horrible "boot over NFS" and other network
> code/hacks in the kernel to be moved out of kernel space, and into
> userspace, where it really belongs.
Having to put all drivers for all PCI/USB/whatever stuff on the
initramfs will likely be a problem (regarding disk space) for people
who need to boot the kernel from a floppy disk without having to
change disks during boot (think of nfsroot without etherboot).
Andreas
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-16 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-15 23:15 Query about initramfs and modules David Garfield
2002-01-15 23:34 ` Greg KH
2002-01-15 23:47 ` David Garfield
2002-01-16 0:01 ` Greg KH
2002-01-16 0:33 ` David Garfield
2002-01-16 1:16 ` Greg KH
2002-01-16 19:29 ` Andreas Ferber [this message]
2002-01-16 19:40 ` Greg KH
2002-01-16 19:53 ` Jordan Crouse
2002-01-16 2:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-16 17:53 ` David Garfield
2002-01-16 18:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-16 19:04 ` David Garfield
2002-01-16 3:29 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-16 19:41 ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-16 19:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-16 20:18 ` Erik Andersen
2002-01-16 20:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
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