From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Diego Calleja <grundig@teleline.es>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bugfix backed out
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:52:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020117165229.O4847@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020117153504.J4847@athlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201171300271.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201171300271.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:04:07PM -0200
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:04:07PM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> > hmm, is this the bugfix you mean? that shouldn't really matter to me as
> > far I can tell, I did it in an alternate way since the first place.
>
> It matters a lot since without this change max_mapped
> will always be larger than max_scan and swap_out() will
> NEVER be called.
I see, thanks for the explanation.
> If this is fixed in another way in -aa I must have missed
yes, -aa handles differently the case where max_scan expires.
> > diff -urN 2.4.17pre8/mm/vmscan.c 2.4.17/mm/vmscan.c
> > --- 2.4.17pre8/mm/vmscan.c Fri Nov 23 08:21:05 2001
> > +++ 2.4.17/mm/vmscan.c Fri Dec 21 20:06:55 2001
> > @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@
> > {
> > struct list_head * entry;
> > int max_scan = nr_inactive_pages / priority;
> > - int max_mapped = nr_pages << (9 - priority);
> > + int max_mapped = min((nr_pages << (10 - priority)), max_scan / 10);
> >
> > spin_lock(&pagemap_lru_lock);
> > while (--max_scan >= 0 && (entry = inactive_list.prev) != &inactive_list) {
> >
> > furthmore I hate those "10" hardwirded magic numbers that you keep
> > adding. The less of them the better. At least I put those magics in
> > sysctl.
>
> Absolutely agreed ... if it helps you, it was marcelo who
> changed the 9 to 10 ;)
Never mind :)
> Ideally we'd have a VM which runs ok without magic numbers,
> or at least one where changing the magic numbers has extremely
> little influence, the defaults work and the sysctl switches
> don't require you to learn how all the VM internals work.
100% agreed.
>
> > see what my max_mapped is:
> >
> > int orig_max_mapped = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX * vm_mapped_ratio,
> >
> > It is controlled by the vm_mapped_ratio and by the swap-cluster. So we
> > unmap one swap cluster at every vm_mapped_ratio of pages scanned that
> > were mapped. This ensure we unmap when there's some relevant work to do.
> > The lower the vm_mapped_ratio, the earlier the kernel will start
> > swapping/paging. (ah, and of course also the SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX would
> > better be a sysctl but it isn't yet)
>
> Yes, but what happens when orig_max_mapped gets larger than
> max_scan ? How does the -aa VM protect against that ?
in short I recall swap_out also from the outside of shrink_caches, if it
fails (if max_scan timeouts it means shrink_caches will fail).
Andrea
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2002-01-16 19:04 ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-16 20:11 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-01-16 20:58 ` Richard Gooch
2002-01-16 21:10 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-16 21:17 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 13:42 ` [lkml] " Ian Soboroff
2002-01-18 3:21 ` ...Re: " Dan Mann
2002-01-17 0:20 ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-16 21:17 ` Craig Knox
2002-01-16 20:58 ` Bongani Hlope
2002-01-16 20:55 ` John Levon
2002-01-16 21:21 ` Bongani Hlope
2002-01-16 21:29 ` Adam Kropelin
2002-01-17 14:17 ` async buffer flushing reported slowdown (could be a driver issue?) Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-18 0:28 ` Adam Kropelin
2002-01-16 21:58 ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Diego Calleja
2002-01-16 22:02 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 14:35 ` bugfix backed out Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17 15:04 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 15:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2002-01-17 14:25 ` oom failures with mem=4m Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-16 21:59 ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Diego Calleja
2002-01-16 22:44 ` Chris Chabot
2002-01-17 8:18 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-01-17 14:13 ` blkdev speedup Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17 0:07 ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Erik Mouw
2002-01-17 0:25 ` J Sloan
2002-01-17 1:15 ` Erik Mouw
2002-01-17 17:40 ` bill davidsen
2002-01-17 14:14 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 4:30 ` Bosko Radivojevic
2002-01-18 4:36 ` vm philosophising Rik van Riel
2002-01-18 4:58 ` Matthew Johnson
2002-01-18 5:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-18 5:18 ` Ryan Cumming
2002-01-18 5:43 ` Matthew Johnson
2002-01-21 17:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-18 6:05 ` Matthew Johnson
2002-01-18 14:42 ` Tommy Faasen
2002-01-18 15:52 ` listmail
2002-01-21 15:50 ` The Doctor What
2002-01-21 16:16 ` Mike Harrold
2002-01-18 15:55 ` Mr. Shannon Aldinger
2002-01-18 18:39 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-18 19:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 20:17 ` David Schwartz
2002-01-18 21:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-19 4:42 ` David Luyer
2002-01-19 18:00 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-20 5:42 ` Stevie O
2002-01-17 0:38 ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 1:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-01-17 11:45 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 12:02 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-17 2:14 ` Andrea Scrimieri
2002-01-17 12:07 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 13:11 ` Andrea Scrimieri
2002-01-17 13:15 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-17 21:41 ` Trever L. Adams
2002-01-18 1:46 ` brian
2002-01-17 1:52 ` Stephen Satchell
2002-01-17 13:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-17 15:10 ` clarification about redhat and vm Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17 15:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 16:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-17 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-18 16:46 ` Wilhelm Nuesser
2002-01-18 19:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-19 10:50 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-01-19 13:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-19 17:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-18 16:53 ` Willi Nüßer
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