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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: clarification about redhat and vm
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:31:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020117173144.Q4847@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020117161055.K4847@athlon.random> <E16RFE9-00042W-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E16RFE9-00042W-00@the-village.bc.nu>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 04:17:21PM +0000

On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 04:17:21PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> The RH VM is totally unrelated to the crap in 2.4.9 vanilla. The SAP comment
> begs a question. 2.4.10 seems to have problems remembering to actually 
> do fsync()'s. How much of your SAP benchmark is from fsync's that dont
> happen ? Do you get the same values with 2.4.18-aa ?

AFIK the bench was not with 2.4.10 (not that I remeber any missing fsync
anyways, actually MS_ASYNC is broken and this is fixed between in
18pre2aa2 from Andrew Morton, but that was broken in 2.4.[79] too). The
bench in 2.2 was delivering much better performance than with 2.4 (I
don't recall the exact number) and 2.2 definitely is not missing fsync
etc...  furthmore the 2.2 numbers were reproducible. the benchmark swaps
heavily shm etc... and the 2.4.[79] vm was collapsing at the second pass
(I think first throughput was 5 then 1 1 1 1), if you swapout always the
wrong part and you start trashing because of unbalance of aging it is
very easy to make a x10 difference in the final numbers. I think a sane
vm should run faster than 2.2 and to be reproducible as 2.2. I tend to
like such test, also because it is a real life test (unlike what
somebody thought). The huge regression in such test was one of the main
reasons that made me to realize the brokeness of the vm algorithms.

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-17 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201162235480.32617-100000@imladris.surriel .com>
2002-01-16 19:04 ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-16 20:11   ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-01-16 20:58   ` Richard Gooch
2002-01-16 21:10     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-16 21:17       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 13:42         ` [lkml] " Ian Soboroff
2002-01-18  3:21         ` ...Re: " Dan Mann
2002-01-17  0:20       ` Luigi Genoni
2002-01-16 21:17     ` Craig Knox
2002-01-16 20:58   ` Bongani Hlope
2002-01-16 20:55     ` John Levon
2002-01-16 21:21       ` Bongani Hlope
2002-01-16 21:29   ` Adam Kropelin
2002-01-17 14:17     ` async buffer flushing reported slowdown (could be a driver issue?) Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-18  0:28       ` Adam Kropelin
2002-01-16 21:58   ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Diego Calleja
2002-01-16 22:02     ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 14:35       ` bugfix backed out Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17 15:04         ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 15:52           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17 14:25     ` oom failures with mem=4m Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-16 21:59   ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Diego Calleja
2002-01-16 22:44   ` Chris Chabot
2002-01-17  8:18     ` Christoph Rohland
2002-01-17 14:13     ` blkdev speedup Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17  0:07   ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Erik Mouw
2002-01-17  0:25     ` J Sloan
2002-01-17  1:15       ` Erik Mouw
2002-01-17 17:40       ` bill davidsen
2002-01-17 14:14     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18  4:30     ` Bosko Radivojevic
2002-01-18  4:36       ` vm philosophising Rik van Riel
2002-01-18  4:58         ` Matthew Johnson
2002-01-18  5:12           ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-18  5:18           ` Ryan Cumming
2002-01-18  5:43             ` Matthew Johnson
2002-01-21 17:55               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-01-18  6:05             ` Matthew Johnson
2002-01-18 14:42         ` Tommy Faasen
2002-01-18 15:52           ` listmail
2002-01-21 15:50           ` The Doctor What
2002-01-21 16:16             ` Mike Harrold
2002-01-18 15:55         ` Mr. Shannon Aldinger
2002-01-18 18:39         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-18 19:23           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 20:17             ` David Schwartz
2002-01-18 21:39               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-19  4:42             ` David Luyer
2002-01-19 18:00               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-20  5:42               ` Stevie O
2002-01-17  0:38   ` Rik spreading bullshit about VM Rik van Riel
2002-01-17  1:50     ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-01-17 11:45       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 12:02         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-01-17  2:14     ` Andrea Scrimieri
2002-01-17 12:07       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 13:11         ` Andrea Scrimieri
2002-01-17 13:15           ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 14:02             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-17 21:41             ` Trever L. Adams
2002-01-18  1:46               ` brian
2002-01-17  1:52   ` Stephen Satchell
2002-01-17 13:26   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-17 15:10     ` clarification about redhat and vm Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-17 15:21       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-17 16:17       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-17 16:31         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2002-01-18 16:46         ` Wilhelm Nuesser
2002-01-18 19:07           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-19 10:50             ` Christoph Rohland
2002-01-19 13:54               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-19 17:38                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-18 16:53         ` Willi Nüßer

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