vw-war

vw-war

[Christian Widmer]

do you guys need knifs, guns or tanks. instead of bicker you should put
your knowlage together. if your willing to do so, you might be able to
write a vm that is comparable to vm of a freebsd. 

sorry for that message 

Re: vw-war

[listmail]

I agree, with all the time and bandwidth this useless flame war has
consumed much merging and coding could have taken place.  I never
understood why we can't find some common gound in the two  VM's and have
two heads on this issue instead of just one.



On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Christian Widmer wrote:

> do you guys need knifs, guns or tanks. instead of bicker you should put
> your knowlage together. if your willing to do so, you might be able to
> write a vm that is comparable to vm of a freebsd.
>
> sorry for that message
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Re: vw-war

[Alan Cox]

> your knowlage together. if your willing to do so, you might be able to
> write a vm that is comparable to vm of a freebsd. 

Rik's rmap11 seems to be giving me basically identical behaviour to FreeBSD.
Now there is sort of a reason for that - Rik spent a lot of time looking at
the FreeBSD VM and talking with FreeBSD VM wizards.

Re: vw-war

[Matthew Johnson]

On Thursday 17 January 2002 08:35 am, Alan Cox wrote:
> > your knowlage together. if your willing to do so, you might be able to
> > write a vm that is comparable to vm of a freebsd.
>
> Rik's rmap11 seems to be giving me basically identical behaviour to
> FreeBSD. Now there is sort of a reason for that - Rik spent a lot of time
> looking at the FreeBSD VM and talking with FreeBSD VM wizards.

What are these arguments achieving? I love the fact everyone is an individual 
as it does create innovation in its own right, but its also causing waste too 
when it gets out of hand. But its probably always been like that to some 
extent here. VM issue seems to be out of hand (I know its complex).

What features do each of the VM's possess? Maybe it should be listed out with 
negatives and positives so even someone who really is not a programmer can 
understand it. 

Why are we up to 2.4.17 already? Is it mainly this VM issue? 

Matt
PS Alan, good luck to Wales in the upcoming six nations.

Re: vw-war

[Alan Cox]

> What features do each of the VM's possess? Maybe it should be listed out with 
> negatives and positives so even someone who really is not a programmer can 
> understand it. 
> 
> Why are we up to 2.4.17 already? Is it mainly this VM issue? 

Most update material is driver updates and small fixes. Contrary to the MS
world view regular releases of the base kernel are a good thing. Vendors
will figure out how to do less frequent releases for customers care

The VM change does probably account for 4 or 5 patchlevels. 

> PS Alan, good luck to Wales in the upcoming six nations.

I have a horrible feeling they are going to need a lot of it 8)

Alan

Re: vw-war

[john slee]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 04:59:29PM +0100, Christian Widmer wrote:
> do you guys need knifs, guns or tanks. instead of bicker you should put
> your knowlage together. if your willing to do so, you might be able to
> write a vm that is comparable to vm of a freebsd. 

a little careful googling will reveal that rik van riel has in fact
spent much time conversing with matt dillon (freebsd vm guru) about such
things...

	http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-mm/2000-05/msg00419.html

there is a lot more to these vm "wars" than the "wars" on lk.  behind
the chatter there is research going on that the vm guys should probably
get much more recognition for.

j.

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