From: "christophe barbé" <christophe.barbe.ml@online.fr>
To: Kai Henningsen <kaih@khms.westfalen.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rm-ing files with open file descriptors
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:43:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020120034333.GA13588@online.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020119041857.GA10795@storm.local> <87lmevjrep.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <20020119041857.GA10795@storm.local> <20020119145132.GA972@online.fr> <8HBE2ej1w-B@khms.westfalen.de>
In-Reply-To: <8HBE2ej1w-B@khms.westfalen.de>
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On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:01:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> christophe.barbe.ml@online.fr (christophe barb?) wrote on 19.01.02 in <20020119145132.GA972@online.fr>:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 05:18:57AM +0100, Andreas Bombe wrote:
> > > Whether that was an intended or accidental feature only someone with
> > > more insight into Unix history can answer. It's that feature that lets
> > > us do live upgrades of distributions without rebooting (executables and
> > > libraries can be replaced without affecting the currently running
> > > processes), at the very least much easier than it would be without this
> > > behaviour.
> >
> > I remember that previous debian release come with a patched kernel to
> > allow live upgrade. It was explained in the FAQ that the patch was
> > required for this purpose.
>
> Complete and utter bullshit. This was never true, and the FAQ never
> claimed this.
>
> > 7.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program;
> > how is this accomplished?
>
> ... under which was originally explained how running demons would be
> restarted, and later it was also mentioned that replacing in-use files is
> possible under Unix. Nothing more. (Google groups will happily find those
> versions, they were in use from 1996 to 2001 according to the archive.)
>
> > What was in this patch?
>
> The patch only exists in your fantasy.
Ok you are right. I've checked old versions of this FAQ and this patch
only exists in my fantasy.
I take your 'Complete and utter bullshit' comment as a debian compliment
and not as an insult.
Christophe
>
> MfG Kai
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-20 3:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-18 21:11 rm-ing files with open file descriptors Doug Alcorn
2002-01-18 21:27 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-18 21:28 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-19 20:23 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-18 21:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-19 0:50 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-19 2:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-19 10:57 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-19 11:10 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-19 11:28 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-19 12:01 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-23 12:18 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-24 9:46 ` Herbert Xu
2002-01-19 17:44 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-20 15:30 ` Richard Kettlewell
2002-01-20 18:21 ` Doug McNaught
2002-01-20 23:10 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-20 3:55 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-01-19 15:21 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-19 15:32 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-19 20:26 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-19 17:53 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-20 15:48 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-19 20:24 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-19 11:15 ` Ville Herva
2002-01-19 12:16 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2002-01-19 12:22 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-19 12:29 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-19 12:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-19 13:18 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-01-19 15:24 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-19 14:50 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-20 14:23 ` Remi Turk
2002-01-20 20:02 ` Ville Herva
2002-01-20 20:44 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-20 21:08 ` Ville Herva
2002-01-21 9:06 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 9:21 ` Ville Herva
2002-01-18 21:59 ` J Sloan
2002-01-19 4:18 ` Andreas Bombe
2002-01-19 14:51 ` christophe barbé
2002-01-19 18:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-20 3:43 ` christophe barbé [this message]
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2002-01-18 22:11 Hank Leininger
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