Re: Hardwired drivers are going away?

Andrew Morton
2002-01-21T01:37:05Z

"Mr. James W. Laferriere" wrote:
>
> This is just what the Heads are trying to do away with . There
> will only be module enabled kernels . JimL

I suspect none of these "Heads" spend much time in protracted
email debug sessions. Because the *first* thing you do is
ask the tester to compile the relevant driver into the
kernel.

The problems which the removal of this option will cause include:

1: Inability to look up symbols in the kernel elf image.
2: Breaks the kernel profiler
3: breaks kgdb
4: breaks ksymoops.

How often have we seen nonsensical backtraces here because
modules were involved? Possibly we can include a table
of module base addresses in the Oops output and teach ksymoops
about it.

This proposal is, frankly, brain-damaged. It will significantly
impeded kernel developers in remote problem diagnosis and it will
weaken the kernel development toolchain.

There's a lot of work to be done to overcome this damage, and
given the difficulty of getting debug tools into the mainstream
kernel, the damage may well be permanent.

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