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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linuxdiskcert.org>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020121100042.P27835@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020121090156.O27835@suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10201210031300.13727-100000@master.linux-ide.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10201210031300.13727-100000@master.linux-ide.org>


(have read up on mult now)

On Mon, Jan 21 2002, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 20 2002, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > > No it's not. By your standards, that would mean that if the device is
> > > > setup for 16 sector multi mode, then I could never ever issue requests
> > > > less than that (without doing some crap 'toss away extra data' stuff).
> > > > How else would you handle, eg, 2 sector requests with multi mode set?
> > > 
> > > Change the opcode in the command block to single sector, if
> > > rq->current_nr_sectors != drive->multcount.
> > 
> > That crossed my mind too, however that's not what we've been doing in
> > the past and multi mode has worked fine.
> 
> And we have not done a lot of things in the past.
> Mind the fact, before you changed max-sectors from 128 to 255 != 256, he
> problems maybe a direct result.  Mind the fact, it is my fault for not
> telling you about the issue.
> 
> Since 128 and 256 are clearly 2,4,8,16 divisable and clean, as a result we
> kind of masked the problem, but 255 is not at all the same issue.

But, eg, 24 sectors is not and we would still be starting a multi
read/write for that...

> Mind you Mark Lord did get this correct in the copy buffer issue, but the
> bug introduced by 255 is the only problem I can trace to be suspect.

255 is effectively 248 (256 - 8), however that is still not correct when
modulo a 16 multi sector setting.

> > > the hardware to what you are sending down.  The question you need to
> > > answer is issuing a request for multi-sector transfers less than what the
> > > device is expecting, sane and correct.  If you tell me it is correct,
> > > please show me where I read something wrong in the specification.
> > 
> > You are saying that even when I do:
> > 
> > 	/* this is our request */
> > 	rq->nr_sectors = 48;
> > 	rq->current_nr_sectors = 8;
> > 
> > 	/* drive->mult_count has been programmed to 16 */
> 
> You exectute WIN_MULTREAD and it behaves based on what the device has been
> programmed to do respond.
> 
> If you want 8 sectors only, by golly you had better tell it expect 8
> sectors and then you can interrupt upon completion.
> 
> If it expects 16 sectors and you stop at 8, and issue a new command,
> expect the device to go south.

This really sucks, it means we cannot safely use multi mode for a
variety of request sizes. I agree with your earlier comment. Here's what
I think we should be doing: when requesting multi mode, limit to 8
sectors like in your patch. This is by far the most commen multiple,
that's why. When starting a request, use WIN_MULT* only for cases where
(rq->nr_sectors % drive->mult_count) == 0. If that doesn't hold, simply
use WIN_READ or WIN_WRITE.

Applied the 2.5.3-pre2 sched SMP fix, booting -pre2 and then hacking up
a patch.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-21  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-18  2:27 Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1 Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-18 17:32 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:05   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-18 19:23     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:28       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:48         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:40           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:44           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 11:40           ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-19 11:37             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 15:45               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-19 20:36                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 21:44                   ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-20  0:31                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-20  2:02                       ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-20 10:48                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-20 18:55                     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-21  0:12                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 10:43                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 10:48                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 10:56                             ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 17:44                               ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-21 11:14                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:29                               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 11:38                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:51                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 11:34                               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 17:44                                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 20:18                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 22:57                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 23:53                                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  7:20                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-22  7:52                                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  8:16                                             ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22  9:45                                               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 10:06                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22 23:18                                                   ` END GAME (Re: Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1) Andre Hedrick
2002-01-23  8:55                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-23 20:57                                                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 10:26                                                 ` Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1 Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-22 16:49                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-22 18:45                                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 21:44                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  7:32                                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 11:22                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 11:32                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:34                               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  1:48                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  7:36                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  7:46                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  8:01                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  8:42                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  9:00                               ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2002-01-21  8:59                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  9:07                                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  9:48                                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:26   ` Andre Hedrick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-21  4:40 Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  4:40 Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  6:19 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-01-21 22:45 Petr Vandrovec
2002-01-21 23:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  7:58   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22  8:52     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 14:17 ` Denis Vlasenko

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