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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linuxdiskcert.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:57:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020121235743.A28134@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020121184433.C1018@suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10201211133310.15703-100000@master.linux-ide.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10201211133310.15703-100000@master.linux-ide.org>; from andre@linuxdiskcert.org on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:18:21PM -0800

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:18:21PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote:

> > > Again, the HOST(Linux) is not following the device side rules so expect
> > > difficulty when we depart.  The Brain Damage is how to talk to the
> > > hardware, and it is clear we are not doing it right because we are bending
> > > the rules stuff it into and API that not acceptable.  However we are
> > > stuck.  Again, simplicity works, generate a MEMPOOL for PIO such that the
> > > buffer pages are contigious and the 4k page dance is a NOOP.  Until that
> > > time we will be fussing about.
> > 
> > Andre,
> > 
> > Do you know how to say "I was wrong"? You are walking off-track again.
> > It's clearly the way that Vojtech and I describe, otherwise current code
> > would just not work. And 2.4, 2.2, 2.0 neither.
> 
> I will and have done so in the past when I am, and it would be nice if you
> and Linus could do the same.  However since both are going to enforce the
> partial completion of IO on page boundaries or 4k, and you are not
> allowed to pause or stop in the middle of a command execution to play
> memory games under ATA/IDE PIO rules, period.

Maybe I'm again totally off-the-track, but I see no reason why I
couldn't stop in the middle of a PIO transfer (that is anytime, not even
on a sector boundary), do whatever I wish, like change the destination
buffer or whatever, and then continue. Sure, I can't send ANY commands
to the drive, and reading the status might not be a good idea either,
but I believe I can do anything else on the system. Is there a reason
why this shouldn't be possible?

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-21 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-18  2:27 Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1 Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-18 17:32 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:05   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-18 19:23     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:28       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:48         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:40           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:44           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 11:40           ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-19 11:37             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 15:45               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-19 20:36                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 21:44                   ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-20  0:31                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-20  2:02                       ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-20 10:48                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-20 18:55                     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-21  0:12                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 10:43                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 10:48                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 10:56                             ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 17:44                               ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-21 11:14                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:29                               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 11:38                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:51                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 11:34                               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 17:44                                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 20:18                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 22:57                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2002-01-21 23:53                                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  7:20                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-22  7:52                                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  8:16                                             ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22  9:45                                               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 10:06                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22 23:18                                                   ` END GAME (Re: Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1) Andre Hedrick
2002-01-23  8:55                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-23 20:57                                                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 10:26                                                 ` Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1 Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-22 16:49                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-22 18:45                                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 21:44                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  7:32                                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 11:22                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 11:32                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:34                               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  1:48                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  7:36                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  7:46                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  8:01                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  8:42                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  9:00                               ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  8:59                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  9:07                                   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21  9:48                                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:26   ` Andre Hedrick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-21  4:40 Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  4:40 Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21  6:19 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-01-21 22:45 Petr Vandrovec
2002-01-21 23:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22  7:58   ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22  8:52     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 14:17 ` Denis Vlasenko

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