From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linuxdiskcert.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:57:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020121235743.A28134@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020121184433.C1018@suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10201211133310.15703-100000@master.linux-ide.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10201211133310.15703-100000@master.linux-ide.org>; from andre@linuxdiskcert.org on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:18:21PM -0800
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:18:21PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > Again, the HOST(Linux) is not following the device side rules so expect
> > > difficulty when we depart. The Brain Damage is how to talk to the
> > > hardware, and it is clear we are not doing it right because we are bending
> > > the rules stuff it into and API that not acceptable. However we are
> > > stuck. Again, simplicity works, generate a MEMPOOL for PIO such that the
> > > buffer pages are contigious and the 4k page dance is a NOOP. Until that
> > > time we will be fussing about.
> >
> > Andre,
> >
> > Do you know how to say "I was wrong"? You are walking off-track again.
> > It's clearly the way that Vojtech and I describe, otherwise current code
> > would just not work. And 2.4, 2.2, 2.0 neither.
>
> I will and have done so in the past when I am, and it would be nice if you
> and Linus could do the same. However since both are going to enforce the
> partial completion of IO on page boundaries or 4k, and you are not
> allowed to pause or stop in the middle of a command execution to play
> memory games under ATA/IDE PIO rules, period.
Maybe I'm again totally off-the-track, but I see no reason why I
couldn't stop in the middle of a PIO transfer (that is anytime, not even
on a sector boundary), do whatever I wish, like change the destination
buffer or whatever, and then continue. Sure, I can't send ANY commands
to the drive, and reading the status might not be a good idea either,
but I believe I can do anything else on the system. Is there a reason
why this shouldn't be possible?
--
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-21 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-18 2:27 Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1 Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-18 17:32 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:05 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-18 19:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:28 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:48 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-18 19:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:44 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 11:40 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-19 11:37 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 15:45 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-19 20:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-19 21:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-20 0:31 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-20 2:02 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-20 10:48 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-20 18:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-21 0:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 10:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 10:48 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 10:56 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 17:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-21 11:14 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:29 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 11:38 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 11:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 17:44 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 20:18 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 22:57 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2002-01-21 23:53 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 7:20 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-22 7:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 8:16 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22 9:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 10:06 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22 23:18 ` END GAME (Re: Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1) Andre Hedrick
2002-01-23 8:55 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-23 20:57 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 10:26 ` Linux 2.5.3-pre1-aia1 Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-22 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-22 18:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 21:44 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 7:32 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 11:22 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 11:32 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-01-21 11:34 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 1:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 7:36 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 7:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 8:01 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 8:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 9:00 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 8:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 9:07 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-21 9:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-18 19:26 ` Andre Hedrick
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-21 4:40 Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 4:40 Andre Hedrick
2002-01-21 6:19 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-01-21 22:45 Petr Vandrovec
2002-01-21 23:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 7:58 ` Jens Axboe
2002-01-22 8:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-01-22 14:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
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