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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>, Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
	Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>, Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] Re: Possible Idea with filesystem buffering.
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:35:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020123203500.L1930@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C4DB256.172F8D6A@zip.com.au> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201221649430.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0201221649430.32617-100000@imladris.surriel.com>; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:03:02PM -0200

Hi,

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:03:02PM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Hans Reiser wrote:
> >
> > Note that writepage() doesn't get used much.  Most VM-initiated
> > filesystem writeback activity is via try_to_release_page(), which
> > has somewhat more vague and flexible semantics.
> 
> We may want to change this though, or at the very least get
> rid of the horrible interplay between ->writepage and
> try_to_release_page() ...

This is actually really important --- writepage on its own cannot
distinguish between requests to flush something to disk (eg. msync or
fsync), and requests to evict dirty data from memory.

This is really important for ext3's data journaling mode --- syncing
to disk only requires flushing as far as the journal, but evicting
dirty pages requires a full writeback too.  That's one place where our
traditional VM notion of writepage just isn't quite fine-grained
enough.

Cheers,
 Stephen

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-23 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-20  9:04 Possible Idea with filesystem buffering Shawn
2002-01-20 11:31 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 13:56   ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 14:21     ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 15:13       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:15         ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:24           ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:30             ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:40               ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 21:49                 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 22:00                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21  0:10                   ` Matt
2002-01-21  0:57                     ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  1:28                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21  2:29                       ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-21 19:15                         ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 22:02                           ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  9:21                     ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21  9:13                   ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 15:29               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 17:51       ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-20 21:24         ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-20 21:32           ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 15:37           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-20 22:45   ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:11     ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 23:40       ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-20 23:48         ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21  0:44           ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  0:52             ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21  1:08               ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  1:39                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 11:10                   ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 12:12                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 13:42                       ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 13:54                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21 14:07                           ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 17:21                             ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 17:47                               ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 19:44                                 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-21 20:41                                   ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21 21:53                                     ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22  6:02                                       ` Andreas Dilger
2002-01-22 10:09                                         ` Tommi Kyntola
2002-01-22 11:39                                         ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 18:41                                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-22 19:03                                             ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 20:35                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2002-01-23 20:48                                                 ` [Ext2-devel] " Hans Reiser
2002-01-23 20:55                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-23 23:53                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-01-24  0:01                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-22 20:19                                             ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 20:50                                               ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 14:03                                         ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 14:39                                           ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 18:46                                             ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 19:19                                               ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:13                                                 ` Steve Lord
2002-01-22 21:22                                                   ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 20:32                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 21:08                                                   ` Chris Mason
2002-01-22 22:05                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:21                                                       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23  0:16                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 22:10                                                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-23  1:14                                                     ` Stuart Young
2002-01-23 17:16                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-22 21:12                                                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 21:28                                                     ` Shawn Starr
2002-01-22 21:31                                                       ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 20:20                                               ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-22 22:31                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-22 23:34                                                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23 17:15                                                 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-01-21  0:28       ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  0:47         ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21  1:01           ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  1:21             ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-21  1:26               ` Hans Reiser
2002-01-21  1:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-20 15:49 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-20 21:21   ` Hans Reiser

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