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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] syscall latency improvement #1
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:26:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020126032655.A13340@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020126030341.A9651@wotan.suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201251810270.16989-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201251810270.16989-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:14:25PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 05:53:57PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > >
> > > On 26 Jan 2002, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It doesn't explain the Athlon speedups. On athlon cli is ~4 cycles.
> > >
> > > .. and it probably serializes the instruction stream.
> >
> > I have word from AMD engineering that it doesn't stall the pipeline
> > or serializes.
> 
> Note that it may not be the "cli" itself - the "iret" may be slower if it
> has to enable interrupts that were disabled before. Ie the iret microcode
> may have the equivalent of

[...]

Yes that could explain it. I ignored it on x86-64 because it always uses
SYSCALL/SYSRET (at least for 64bit)  @)

The real fix for that would be support of SYSENTER/SYSCALL on 32bit too
(more likely SYSENTER because it's supported by Athlons and SYSCALL is too 
broken on K6 to be usable) 

An int $0x80 does a awful lot of locked cycles for example and IRET is 
also not exactly a speed daemon and very complex.

SYSENTER/SYSEXIT would be likely a much bigger win than nanooptimizations of 
a few cycles around this.
-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-26  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <18993.1011984842@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0201251626490.2042-100000@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-26  1:24   ` [PATCH] syscall latency improvement #1 Andi Kleen
2002-01-26  1:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-26  2:03       ` Andi Kleen
2002-01-26  2:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-26  2:26           ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2002-01-26  2:39             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-26  2:53           ` Davide Libenzi
2002-01-26  2:10       ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-26  3:06         ` Robert Love
2002-01-26  3:20           ` Robert Love
2002-01-25 18:54 David Howells
2002-01-25 22:35 ` Robert Love
2002-01-26 10:07   ` Nigel Gamble
2002-01-25 23:07 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-01-26  0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-26  0:57   ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-26  1:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-01-26  4:00     ` Jamie Lokier
2002-01-28 14:18     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-01-28 10:30       ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-28 15:28         ` Jeff Dike
2002-01-29  0:53         ` Rusty Russell
2002-01-29 12:54         ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-29 12:59         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-01-26 18:39   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-27 19:59     ` Jamie Lokier

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