From: Ken Brownfield <brownfld@irridia.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Continuing /dev/random problems with 2.4
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 03:17:44 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020201031744.A32127@asooo.flowerfire.com> (raw)
Since I've switched to using 2.4 in situations where /dev/random is
heavily used, I've been seeing more and more of the running issue with
/dev/random.
After a few days of occasional use from sshd and our own cryptographic
purposes, we're seeing entropy_avail go to 0 and requests to /dev/random
block. The processes that block remain killable, but entropy no longer
appears until a reboot is performed.
Robert Love did some /dev/random maintenance a while back, and his
netdev patches are essential for low disk-activity systems. While his
patches have helped the situation greatly, it appears that there is
something in the random code that can cause extraction of entropy to
permanently exhaust the pool. Some kind of issue when entropy is near
zero at the time of a read?
In any case, this is becoming a major pain throughout the many systems
and distibution mechanisms that we're running and at this point I think
it really should be looked at.
I will try to take a look at the code at some point, but I'd really
appreciate it if someone with some previous knowledge of this area of
the kernel could take a look.
This problem has occurred on many many different SMP configurations
(varying procs, motherboards, SCSI, IDE, RAM, etc) for all of the 2.4
series, although Robert's much appreciated fixes a few revs ago helped
quite a bit. Haven't been able to test on UP, since we're exclusively
SMP.
/dev/urandom is indeed an option for _some_ situations, but I'd rather
fix the problem for the good of everyone else, and I'd like to reap the
benefits of /dev/random vs. /dev/urandom.
Thanks much,
--
Ken.
brownfld@irridia.com
next reply other threads:[~2002-02-01 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-01 9:17 Ken Brownfield [this message]
2002-02-01 16:36 ` Continuing /dev/random problems with 2.4 Andreas Dilger
2002-02-01 17:00 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-02-01 16:53 ` Robert Love
2002-02-01 17:01 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-02-04 9:28 ` Sean Hunter
2002-02-01 18:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 19:38 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-02-01 19:50 ` Robert Love
2002-02-01 19:52 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-02-01 19:57 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-01 20:22 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-02-01 19:43 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-01 20:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 20:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-02 1:33 ` David Wagner
2002-02-02 8:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-02 8:54 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-02-02 11:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-04 22:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-04 22:37 ` Roland Dreier
2002-02-04 22:45 ` Robert Love
2002-02-05 23:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-05 23:17 ` Robert Love
2002-02-06 16:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-06 16:31 ` Need a clew WRT fig2dev Kirk Reiser
2002-02-06 16:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-02-06 20:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-09 19:45 ` Continuing /dev/random problems with 2.4 Nix N. Nix
2002-02-03 12:51 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-02-01 20:23 ` Peter Monta
2002-02-01 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 20:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01 20:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01 20:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 20:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01 20:56 ` Peter Monta
2002-02-01 22:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 23:27 ` Peter Monta
2002-02-02 1:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 2:05 ` David Wagner
2002-02-02 3:30 ` Peter Monta
2002-02-02 21:02 ` Martin Dalecki
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-04 21:53 Ishan O. Jayawardena
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20020201031744.A32127@asooo.flowerfire.com \
--to=brownfld@irridia.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox