From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Florian Weimer <Weimer@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:54:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020206085423.F7674@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0202051928330.2375-100000@cesium.transmeta.com> <87g04eljw6.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>
In-Reply-To: <87g04eljw6.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>; from Weimer@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE on Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 04:17:29PM +0100
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 04:17:29PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
>
> > The long-range plan, and the real payoff, comes if main developers start
> > using bk too, which should make syncing a lot easier. That will take some
> > time, I suspect.
>
> Do you think that at some point, using BitKeeper will become mandatory
> for subsystem maintainers? ("mandatory" in the sense that
> non-BitKeeper input is dealt with in a less timely fashion, for
> example.)
If BK makes things dramatically easier for Linus, then there may be a
naturally tendency for him to look at BK patches first.
On the other hand, he's only been using it for a week and he isn't saying
it is the best thing since sliced bread. So it's a bit premature to
predict whether he will be using it in a month or not. We hope so,
and we'll keep working to make you happy with it, but Linus is a harsh
judge - if BK doesn't help out, he'll kick it out the door.
And finally, almost all of the part of the back and forth over the
last week was about how to make BK better at accepting and generating
traditional patches. You will *always* be able to send BK traditional
patches, whether Linus uses BK or not. That was true before he used it
and his use of BK has done nothing but make it be better. For example,
we're working out a plain text format for comments in the patch headers
so that you can comment individual changes on a per file basis in the
patch.
So the summary is that you'll always be able to do regular patches, even
if Linus continues to use BK. There may come a time where the value of
using BK - to you - is quite high. If not, we're back to diff&patch or
some other way.
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
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Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-06 3:37 linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 6:50 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06 7:50 ` Reid Hekman
2002-02-06 8:03 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 19:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-02-06 19:45 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-06 20:44 ` Wayne Scott
2002-02-06 20:35 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 22:25 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-06 15:17 ` Florian Weimer
2002-02-06 15:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-06 16:54 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2002-02-06 22:19 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-06 17:30 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 19:58 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 23:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 8:07 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-07 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-07 17:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 19:46 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-08 0:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-08 5:28 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-08 6:06 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-08 6:14 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-08 6:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-07 10:50 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 19:38 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-06 23:06 ` Larry McVoy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06 7:33 Jeramy B. Smith
2002-02-06 15:15 ` Florian Weimer
2002-02-07 16:50 ` Jan Harkes
2002-02-07 23:06 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-07 21:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-08 1:02 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-07 21:23 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-02-07 21:28 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 21:25 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-08 2:32 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-08 15:33 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-08 21:35 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-11 8:20 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-02-11 15:00 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-11 20:25 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-11 22:14 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-12 5:17 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-12 3:59 ` Theodore Tso
2002-02-12 6:19 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-02-12 20:28 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-12 22:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-13 0:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 9:41 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-13 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-12 11:01 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-02-12 11:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-18 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-10 8:36 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 19:41 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-10 20:19 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 21:16 ` Rob Turk
2002-03-10 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-10 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-11 8:22 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 21:28 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 11:04 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-11 9:46 ` Harald Arnesen
2002-03-10 21:37 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-11 5:48 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 5:52 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 6:15 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 6:37 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 6:42 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-11 13:13 ` yodaiken
2002-03-11 15:51 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 16:08 ` yodaiken
2002-03-11 16:56 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 22:51 ` James Antill
2002-03-12 7:58 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-12 22:37 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 8:09 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-13 15:10 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 9:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-13 14:37 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 16:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-13 16:30 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 19:18 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 14:05 ` Luigi Genoni
2002-03-11 10:46 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-11 11:32 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 15:29 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 16:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 16:25 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 17:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 17:16 ` Nikita Danilov
2002-03-11 18:41 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 19:15 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 21:33 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 21:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-11 22:01 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-11 22:19 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-12 0:14 ` Robert Pfister
2002-03-12 1:28 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-12 18:08 Thunder from the hill
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