From: Mike Touloumtzis <miket@bluemug.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to check the kernel compile options ?
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:13:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020207041356.GA21694@bluemug.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3mjhc$qba$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <2006875340.1012946564@[195.224.237.69]> <3C605910.6060907@zytor.com> <E16YOBB-0002Mx-00@starship.berlin>
In-Reply-To: <E16YOBB-0002Mx-00@starship.berlin>
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:15:49AM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On February 5, 2002 11:13 pm, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > Alex Bligh - linux-kernel wrote:
> >
> > > I would be surprised if there is anyone on this list
> > > who has not lost at some point either the .config, the
> > > kysms, or something similar associated with at least
> > > one build they've made.
> >
> > Sure. And people have lost their root filesystems due to "rm -rf /".
> > That doesn't mean we build the entire (real) root filesystem into the
> > kernel.
>
> Well, it seems to be down to you and Arjan aguing that this usability
> improvement isn't needed, vs quite a few *users* who are complaining about
> the current state of things, as well they should because it's less good than
> it could be.
Numeric participation on lkml discussions is not an indication of much.
If lkml accurately reflected the state of Linux and its userbase, Linux
would be the most crash-prone, bug-ridden, chaotic environment ever :-).
There's probably a lot of people (like me) who use distribution tools like
Debian's kernel-package to build and manage kernel packages. If you're
used to using the right packaging tools, it looks kind of silly to stuff
text files into the kernel in case they're deleted, instead of doing:
$ dpkg -x kernel-image-2.4.17_1.00.Custom_i386.deb ~/tmp/
$ cat ~/tmp/boot/config-2.4.17
The kernel is just a program, and this is a tools problem. You don't
see people arguing that cat's documentation should be moved into /bin/cat
in case administrators misplace "cat.1.gz".
miket
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-07 4:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-04 16:01 How to check the kernel compile options ? David Balazic
2002-02-04 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 17:02 ` David Balazic
2002-02-04 17:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 17:12 ` David Balazic
2002-02-04 17:16 ` Allan Sandfeld
2002-02-04 18:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 18:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 23:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 23:34 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-02-04 18:09 ` Samuli Suonpaa
2002-02-04 17:34 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-04 17:50 ` David Relson
2002-02-04 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-05 22:02 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-05 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-06 9:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 4:13 ` Mike Touloumtzis [this message]
2002-02-07 9:32 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-07 13:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 18:26 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 19:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 20:34 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 20:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:08 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 21:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 23:58 ` John Alvord
2002-02-09 21:59 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-07 21:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:41 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 22:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 22:13 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 22:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-08 20:53 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-09 12:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-11 16:07 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-09 21:39 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-06 16:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-04 18:34 ` David Relson
2002-02-04 21:09 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-05 16:30 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-04 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D217218@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-02-12 21:26 ` Paul Menage
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06 4:55 Rick A. Hohensee
2002-02-05 23:56 Andries.Brouwer
2002-02-06 0:14 ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-02-06 0:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-06 0:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-06 10:36 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-02-06 14:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-06 15:31 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-02-06 22:13 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-06 15:59 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-06 16:32 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-09 18:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-11 0:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-11 19:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-11 21:17 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-12 0:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 16:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 17:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 17:26 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-12 18:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 21:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-12 22:10 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-12 22:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 0:49 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 2:35 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-12 18:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 14:19 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-13 15:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 23:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 16:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 18:09 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 18:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 18:27 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 18:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 18:40 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 21:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 22:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 23:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 23:21 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-13 23:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 22:17 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-13 23:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-14 16:48 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-15 22:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-15 23:04 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-16 1:10 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-19 11:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-16 0:58 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-22 19:56 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-23 7:02 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-26 6:30 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-03-01 21:01 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-14 1:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 12:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 17:35 ` Chris Friesen
2002-02-11 18:37 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-11 19:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-06 16:26 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-06 17:26 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-06 18:16 ` David Relson
2002-02-07 7:56 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 9:12 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-07 12:22 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 21:11 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-08 8:25 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 8:52 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-06 11:29 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-06 13:26 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] <fa.c5n369v.1a10827@ifi.uio.no>
2002-02-04 16:21 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-02-04 16:01 David Balazic
2002-02-04 21:47 ` Matti Aarnio
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