Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Doug McNaught]

Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk> writes:

> Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned email:
> 
> ><usr3189@transmet.com>

Should be "transmeta".  ;)
                   ^

-Doug
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Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Marc Schiffbauer]

* Anton Altaparmakov schrieb am 08.02.02 um 21:19 Uhr:
> Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned 
> email:
> 
> >Envelope-to: aia21@cus.cam.ac.uk
> >To: aia21@cam.ac.uk
> >From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>

transmet.com? I think you chose the wrong company ;)

-Marc

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Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Andreas Dilger]

On Feb 08, 2002  20:19 +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned email:
> 
> >From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
                                        ^^^^^^^^ not transmetA.com

Cheers, Andreas
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Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Mark Zealey]

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 08:19:15PM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:

> Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned 
> email:
> 
> >Envelope-to: aia21@cus.cam.ac.uk
> >To: aia21@cam.ac.uk
> >From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
> >Reply-To: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
                                            ^^^^^^^^
Transmet... where did the a go?

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Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Mike Fedyk]

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 08:19:15PM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned 
> email:
> 
> >Envelope-to: aia21@cus.cam.ac.uk
> >To: aia21@cam.ac.uk
> >From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
> >Reply-To: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
> >Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
> >Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:23 -0500
> >
> >This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
> >
> >The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
> >
> ><usr3189@transmet.com>

It looks like the CC in "[RFC] New locking primitive for 2.5" by Martin
Wirth is the culprit.

Once this thread ends, or people change the address manually in their
replies the problem ends.

Mike

Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Drew P. Vogel]

Is the missing a in transmet.com intentional?

--Drew Vogel

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:

>Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned email:
>
>>Envelope-to: aia21@cus.cam.ac.uk
>>To: aia21@cam.ac.uk
>>From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
>>Reply-To: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
>>Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
>>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:23 -0500
>>
>>This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
>>
>>The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
>>
>><usr3189@transmet.com>
>>
>>Please reply to Postmaster@transmet.com
>>if you feel this message to be in error.
>>Reporting-MTA: dns; imta04a2.registeredsite.com
>>Arrival-Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:23 -0500
>>Received-From-MTA: dns; orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (131.111.8.77)
>>
>>Final-Recipient: RFC822; <torvalds@transmet.com>
>>Action: failed
>>Status: 4.2.2
>>X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; <usr3189@transmet.com>
>>Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.77])
>>           by imta04a2.registeredsite.com with ESMTP
>>           id
>> <20020208201423.QUCD3217.imta04a2.registeredsite.com@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk>
>>           for <torvalds@transmet.com>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:23 -0500
>>Received: from tmd.christs.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.219.75] helo=tmd.cam.ac.uk)
>>         by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1)
>>         id 16ZHOo-0007Tk-00; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 20:13:34 +0000
>>Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020208174632.00b0dad0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
>>X-Sender: aia21@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk
>>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
>>Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 20:14:32 +0000
>>To: nigel@nrg.org
>>From: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
>>Subject: Re: [RFC] New locking primitive for 2.5
>>Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@ns.caldera.de>,Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
>>  yodaiken <yodaiken@fsmlabs.com>,Martin Wirth <Martin.Wirth@dlr.de>,
>>  linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,akpm <akpm@zip.com.au>,
>>  torvalds <torvalds@transmet.com>,rml <rml@tech9.net>
>>In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0202080838230.3883-100000@cosmic.nrg.org>
>>References: <200202081231.g18CV7e31341@ns.caldera.de>
>>Mime-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>>At 16:51 08/02/02, Nigel Gamble wrote:
>>> > No.  i_sem should be split into a spinlock for short-time accessed
>>> > fields that get written to even if the file content is only read (i.e.
>>> > atime) and a read-write semaphore.
>>>
>>>Read-write semaphores should never be used.  As others have pointed out,
>>>they cause really intractable priority inversion problems (because a
>>>high priority writer will often have to wait for an unbounded number of
>>>lower priority readers, some of which may have called a blocking
>>>function while holding the read lock).
>>>
>>>Note that I'm not talking about read-write spinlocks, which are (or
>>>should be) held for a short, bounded time and can't be held over a
>>>blocking call, so they are not quite so problematic.
>>
>>Read-write semaphores have their use and the current Linux implementation
>>(big reader/occasional writer) guarantees that the writer is not starved
>>as incoming read locks are put to sleep as soon as a write lock request
>>comes in, even if that is sleeping waiting for the old readlocks to be
>>released (unless the readers are holding the semaphore forever in which
>>case this is the programmers fault and not the rw semaphore
>>implementations fault). [I should add I only am familliar with the i386
>>implementation but I assume the others are the same.]
>>
>>The value of allowing multiple cpus to read the same data simultaneously
>>by far offsets the priority problems IMVHO. At least the way I am using rw
>>semaphores in ntfs it is. Readlocks are grabbed loads and loads of times
>>to serialize meta data access in the page cache while writelocks are a
>>minute number in comparison and because the data required to be accessed
>>may not be cached in memory (page cache page is not read in, is swapped
>>out, whatever) a disk access may be required which means a rw spin lock is
>>no good. In fact ntfs would be the perfect candidate for automatic rw
>>combi locks where the locking switches from spinning to sleeping if the
>>code path reaches a disk access. I can't use a manually controlled lock as
>>the page cache lookups are done via the mm/filemap.c access functions
>>which are the only ones who can know if a disk access is required or not
>>so ntfs would never know if it is going to sleep or not so unless the
>>locks had autodetection of whether to spin or sleep they would be useless.
>>
>>I guess the point I am trying to make is that both rw semaphores and combi
>>locks are not bad per se but, as all other locking mechanisms, they should
>>be used in situations appropriate for their locktype and their
>>implementation...
>>
>>Anton
>>
>>
>>--
>>   "I've not lost my mind. It's backed up on tape somewhere." - Unknown
>>--
>>Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
>>Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/
>>ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
>>
>
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Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[David Garfield]

H. Peter Anvin writes:
 > Followup to:  <5.1.0.14.2.20020208201734.038322c0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
 > By author:    Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
 > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
 > >
 > > Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned email:
 > > 
 > > >Envelope-to: aia21@cus.cam.ac.uk
 > > >To: aia21@cam.ac.uk
 > > >From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
 > > >Reply-To: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>
 >                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > > >Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
 > > >Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:23 -0500
 > > >
 > 
 > You sent it to the wrong address, and apparently someone is being a
 > "scalper" and trying to capture peoples misaddressed email.
 > 
 > This is getting to be a very painful problems for a lot of
 > organizations.
 > 
 > 	-hpa

Actually, I suspect the situation is somewhat simpler.  It is possible
transmet.com may only have one mailbox that everything funnels into.
Their mail is hosted by "registeredsite.com", which has a somewhat
invalid web presence (IP address = 10.0.0.1).

>From transmet.com's web site, the company appears to be manufacturer
of metal flakes, and does not appear to have a particularly large web
presence.

--David

Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Ross Vandegrift]

> Actually, I suspect the situation is somewhat simpler.  It is possible
> transmet.com may only have one mailbox that everything funnels into.
> Their mail is hosted by "registeredsite.com", which has a somewhat
> invalid web presence (IP address = 10.0.0.1).

Interesting.  In my battles against spam, a *HUGE* precentage has been linked
with registeredsite.com.  Wouldn't be surprised if they were harvesting
addresses, or some other such vile stuffs.

Ross Vandegrift
ross@willow.seitz.com

Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Samuli Suonpaa]

"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
> You sent it to the wrong address, and apparently someone is being a
> "scalper" and trying to capture peoples misaddressed email.

$ whois transmet.com
[...]
   Billing Contact:
      Ollila, Dick  (DOZ70)  allison@WALKUPRIGHT.COM
      Transmet Corporation
      4290 Perimeter Dr.
      Columbus , OH 43228-1656
      (614) 276-5522

Interesting translation of the name of Nokia Chairman and CEO Jorma
Ollila. In Finnish, the word jorma doesn't always refer to the whole
man, exactly like 'dick' in English. I'd guess the person who
registered this domain has at least some knowledge of Finnish.

Suonpää...

RE: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Karl]

>The domain was misstyped.  However, apparently there is a
>torvalds@tramset.com too... very interesting indeed.


   Maybe not. MS Exchange mail servers (can) forward erroneous mail
addresses within the domain to a specified recipient. My servers do this at
work because we work with a lot of international companies which use poor
spelling as a hiring prerequisite (I think). Anyway, I get all the mispelled
mail and they do not get a 'bounce' if I got Linus Torvalds e mail by
mistake I think you would get a very similar message to what you saw there
(I am guessing he gets a lot more than the rest of this list). I could be
way off base though in thinking this is similar.

Karl

Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[Pete Zaitcev]

> Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned email:
> 
> >To: aia21@cam.ac.uk
> >From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@transmet.com>

Read closer - it's a trap account that intercepts Linus's emails.
One more reason to always use PGP/GPG, BTW.

-- Pete

Re: Linus' email account is full. - Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

[pmenage]

In article <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D216E91@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>,
you write:
>Linus' email account appears to be full if we can believe this returned
>email:
>
>>  torvalds <torvalds@transmet.com>,rml <rml@tech9.net>
                             ^^^^^
I think you're missing an "a" 

Paul