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From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Tom Lord <lord@regexps.com>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, lm@bitmover.com, jmacd@CS.Berkeley.EDU,
	jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:54:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020212145412.E25559@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
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In-Reply-To: <200202122028.MAA24835@morrowfield.home>; from lord@regexps.com on Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:28:54PM -0800

> 	2. On your laptop, store only the repository you'll need for
>            day to day work, plus a very sparsely populated revision
>            library
> 
> Having a huge revision library is a win if what you're doing is
> fielding patches [etc]

I think that the point is that when you put stuff on your laptop, you'd
dearly love not realize that you forgot something you need when you are
either not connected or are connected only via a modem.  If you can store
the kernel history in 80-90MB and you have all the versions you'll ever
want, that's a win compared to storing a few versions and then realizing
the one you want isn't there.

I also think that the term "huge revision library" doesn't make sense
to all systems.  Some systems can fit that "huge library" in less space
than the checked out files, so why limit yourself?

Note that this is explictly not a BK thing, it's a general thing.
I want whatever system I use to limit my choices as little as possible.
No system is perfect, it's more of an optimization over the posssible
limitations.  In this particular respect, I can say that I've found it
very useful to carry around all the history when traveling, it means
there is no difference between working at home or on the road, other
than performance of my crappy laptop.

And it's not like this makes arch bad, this is one place where it isn't as
good as some other choices.  But arch has other areas where it is better,
it is less pedantic than most systems about what it will try and apply.
It's the uber patch library if you ask me, and that has real value.
Why the patchbot people haven't picked up on that is beyond me, they're
off trying to write something "simple", which I think you'll agree is
a strange, there is nothing simple about this problem space.
-- 
---
Larry McVoy            	 lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitmover.com/lm 

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-12 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-06  7:33 linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Jeramy B. Smith
2002-02-06 15:15 ` Florian Weimer
2002-02-07 16:50 ` Jan Harkes
2002-02-07 23:06   ` Tom Lord
2002-02-07 21:23     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-08  1:02       ` Tom Lord
2002-02-07 21:23     ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-02-07 21:28       ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 21:25     ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-08  2:32       ` Tom Lord
2002-02-08 15:33       ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-08 21:35         ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-11  8:20       ` Josh MacDonald
2002-02-11 15:00         ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-11 20:25           ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-11 22:14           ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-12  5:17             ` Tom Lord
2002-02-12  3:59               ` Theodore Tso
2002-02-12  6:19                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-02-12 20:28                 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-12 22:54                   ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2002-02-13  0:52                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13  9:41                     ` Tom Lord
2002-02-13 10:35                     ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-12 11:01           ` Josh MacDonald
2002-02-12 11:15             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-18 18:10             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-10  8:36       ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 19:41         ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-10 20:19           ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 21:16             ` Rob Turk
2002-03-10 21:34               ` Alan Cox
2002-03-10 21:23                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-11  8:22                   ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 21:28                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 11:04                   ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-11  9:46                 ` Harald Arnesen
2002-03-10 21:37             ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-11  5:48               ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11  5:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11  6:15                   ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11  6:37                     ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11  6:42                     ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-11 13:13                     ` yodaiken
2002-03-11 15:51                       ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 16:08                         ` yodaiken
2002-03-11 16:56                           ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 22:51                     ` James Antill
2002-03-12  7:58                       ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-12 22:37                         ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13  8:09                           ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-13 15:10                             ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13  9:39                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-13 14:37                             ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 16:26                               ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-13 16:30                                 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 19:18                                   ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-14  9:39                                     ` filesystem transactions (was Re: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing) Tom Lord
2002-03-14  8:26                                       ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-14 10:31                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-11 14:05             ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Luigi Genoni
2002-03-11 10:46           ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-11 11:32             ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 15:29               ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 16:08                 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 16:25                   ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 17:08                     ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 17:16                       ` Nikita Danilov
2002-03-11 18:22                     ` VMS File versions (was RE: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing) Robert Pfister
2002-03-11 18:41                     ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Steven Cole
2002-03-11 19:15                       ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 21:33                         ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 21:54                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-11 22:01                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-11 22:19                             ` Steven Cole
2002-03-12  0:14                               ` Robert Pfister
2002-03-12  7:54                           ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing (If you don't like the closed source nature of Bitkeeper, stop your whining and help out with reiserfs.) Hans Reiser
2002-03-12  1:28                       ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Mark H. Wood
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-12 18:08 Thunder from the hill
2002-02-06  3:37 Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06  6:50 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06  7:50   ` Reid Hekman
2002-02-06  8:03     ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 19:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-02-06 19:45         ` Tom Rini
2002-02-06 20:44           ` Wayne Scott
2002-02-06 20:35         ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 22:25           ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-06 15:17 ` Florian Weimer
2002-02-06 15:32   ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-06 16:54   ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 22:19   ` Rob Landley
2002-02-06 17:30 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 17:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 19:58     ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 23:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 23:54         ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07  8:07         ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-07 16:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-07 17:26             ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 19:46               ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-08  0:29                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-08  5:28               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-08  6:06                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-08  6:14                   ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-08  6:49                   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-07 10:50         ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 19:38 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-06 23:06   ` Larry McVoy

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