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From: bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Dan Aloni <da-x@gmx.net>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] C exceptions in kernel
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:21:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020223192154.A3837@outpost.ds9a.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020223162100.A1952@outpost.ds9a.nl> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0202231242030.26375-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0202231242030.26375-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 05:49:04PM +0000

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 05:49:04PM +0000, Alexander Viro wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, bert hubert wrote:
> 
> > Potentially this is very cool but I'm again appalled at the INSTANT
> > rejection seen here by kernel hackers, minor and major. Do NOT reject an
> > idea before you've thought it through.
> 
> Quite a few of us _had_ thought it through.

Good.

> You know, there's a reason why most of letal mutations are recessive.
> Namely, it's not the first time when they happen and mechanisms making
> them recessive had been selected for.

An ostrich might reason that way too. And that is basically my main gripe.

> Same story here.  It's _not_ the first time this topic had been discussed
> on l-k.  It might be new for you, but it sure as hell _not_ new for quite
> a few people here.

Oh I've seen it. What I resent is the kneejerk reaction. Most people
replying obviously hadn't even looked at the source. Keith Owen's reaction
was wonderful:

	The kernel model is "get it right the first time, so we don't need
	exception handlers".  You have not given any reason why the existing
	mechanisms are failing.

Or Edgar Toernig, who also had an implementation and rejected Dan's in one
line: 

	Bad idea ...

Richard B. Johnson:

	What is this supposed to do?  Are these a bunch of solutions waiting
	for a problem? Or is my Calendar wrong?

Davide Libenzi:

	Is today the 1st of April ? You kidding, don't you ?

I mean, this is just pathetic. There is valid criticism to new ideas, but
this isn't it.

Regards,

bert

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-23 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-22 21:12 [RFC] [PATCH] C exceptions in kernel Dan Aloni
2002-02-22 21:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-02-22 22:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-22 22:34 ` David B. Stevens
2002-02-22 22:48   ` Davide Libenzi
2002-02-23  3:37 ` Edgar Toernig
     [not found] ` <mailman.1014437101.26721.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-02-23 10:11   ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-02-23 12:26     ` Keith Owens
2002-02-23 12:50       ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-02-23 23:07         ` Jes Sorensen
2002-02-23 23:40           ` Keith Owens
2002-02-24  1:02             ` Jes Sorensen
2002-02-24 23:45               ` Richard Gooch
2002-02-23 23:50         ` Bill Huey
2002-02-24  1:31           ` Davide Libenzi
2002-02-24  2:55             ` Bill Huey
2002-02-23 15:13 ` Felix von Leitner
2002-02-23 15:21 ` bert hubert
2002-02-23 16:05   ` Dan Aloni
2002-02-23 16:22     ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-23 17:00       ` Dan Aloni
2002-02-23 17:52         ` Francois Romieu
2002-02-23 17:07       ` bert hubert
2002-02-23 17:47   ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-23 18:21     ` bert hubert [this message]
2002-02-23 18:31       ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-23 18:38         ` bert hubert
2002-02-23 19:12           ` Kurt Ferreira
2002-02-23 23:05       ` Jes Sorensen

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