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From: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Gerd Knorr <kraxel@bytesex.org>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>, Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] __free_pages_ok oops
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:32:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020225133226.B11675@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020214141028.M7940@athlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202140824200.12749-100000@home.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202140824200.12749-100000@home.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:27:36AM -0800

On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:27:36AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I'd really really hate to have the IO make pages go away from irq context
> in 2.5.x too. I think async IO should always be started and cleaned up in
> a user context - there simply isn't any reason not to (the notion of doing
> an exit() or execve() with IO still pending to now-dead-memory is rather
> horrible in itself).

I disagree: requiring aio to execute completion in user context means 
that we can no longer have quick completion directly from an interrupt 
handler to a busy server executing in userland.

That said, it is possible to do the same partial completion as is done 
with file descriptors from interrupt context for pages, but it'll be 
*really* gross.  Freeing pages should be possible from any context IMO.

> > I think the foundamental design mistake that leads to __free_pages to
> > fail from irq, is that we allow an anonymous page to reach count 0 and to be
> > still in the LRU (the count == 0 check in shrink_cache is the other side
> > of the hack too). That's the real BUG, that breaks subtly the freelist
> > semantics
> 
> Agreed. We should NEVER free the pages from the irq.

Uhm, what about the network stack?

		-ben

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-25 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-06 19:06 [PATCH] __free_pages_ok oops Hugh Dickins
2002-02-06 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-06 20:15   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-06 21:11     ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 20:31       ` Manfred Spraul
2002-02-07  5:09 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-02-07  5:47   ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07  5:55     ` David S. Miller
2002-02-07  6:19       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07  6:49         ` David S. Miller
2002-02-07  7:07           ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 11:52             ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-07 12:34             ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-07 12:37               ` David S. Miller
2002-02-07 12:44                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-07 13:19                   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-07 13:27                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-07 13:55                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 14:28                       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-07 14:56                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-07 20:21                           ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-07 20:58                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-07 21:09                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 22:18                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-07 22:31                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-07 23:09                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-07 23:27                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-08 17:46                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-09 14:14                                       ` Gerd Knorr
2002-02-09 15:47                                         ` arjan
2002-02-09 14:33                                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-02-12 20:19                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-13 18:52                                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-02-14 10:47                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-14 11:10                                               ` Gerd Knorr
2002-02-14 13:10                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-14 14:01                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-14 15:17                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-14 16:27                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 18:32                                                     ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2002-02-25 19:35                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-07  9:48         ` Benjamin LaHaise
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-09  8:52 alad
2002-02-09 10:46 ` Hugh Dickins

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