From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ext3 and undeletion
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:12:09 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020226171209.GK4393@matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.n4lfl6v.h4chor@ifi.uio.no> <20020226160544.GD4393@matchmail.com> <3C7BB86A.7090305@zytor.com> <20020226164036.GG4393@matchmail.com> <a5gell$432$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <a5gell$432$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:55:17AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Followup to: <20020226164036.GG4393@matchmail.com>
> By author: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> >
> > Uhh, no.
> >
> > You have a configurable size for the undelete dirs and you delete a file.
> > Now, that file gets moved to $mountpoint/.undelete. The daemon gets
> > notified through a socket, and it can check to see if it needs to delete any
> > older deleted files to make sure .undelete doesn't get bigger than
> > configured.
> >
> > We're only scanning the dirs upon daemon startup (reminds me of
> > quota... ;), and all other daemon actions are triggered by unlink() writing
> > to a socket. The worst thing that can happen is not seeing your free space
> > immediately, but a few seconds later.
> >
>
> Hence race condition.
But an acceptable one (it's a small delay), unless the daemon dies. :(
>Also, the solution to hard-reserve space seems
> to fundamentally defeat the purpose (IMO).
>
Do you really thing we should be moving files from kernel space? Ok, glibc
could move the files, that'd be ok.
So, (I don't know) how is the kernel going to support undeletion on all
filesystems (ext2/3, reiserfs, vfat, jfs, xfs, and any other writable fs...)
in the exact same way (as seen from userspace...)?
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-26 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2002-02-25 17:06 ` ext3 and undeletion Dan Maas
2002-02-25 17:20 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-25 23:33 ` Tom Rauschenbach
2002-02-26 0:27 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-02-26 5:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 16:05 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 16:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 16:40 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 16:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 17:12 ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
2002-02-26 16:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 16:43 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 16:54 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 17:05 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 17:07 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 17:16 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 17:22 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-26 17:38 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 18:14 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-26 18:55 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 22:04 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 18:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-26 18:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 18:47 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-26 18:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-28 15:05 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-28 22:37 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-28 22:55 ` James D Strandboge
2002-03-01 4:44 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-04 16:26 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-05 21:29 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-03-06 11:30 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-05 22:07 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-26 17:22 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01 0:19 ` Rick Lindsley
2002-03-01 1:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 17:54 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 18:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 15:40 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-25 18:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-25 18:40 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-25 19:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-25 22:05 ` ext3 and undeletion (libtrash) Omen Wild
2002-03-05 23:04 ext3 and undeletion Rose, Billy
2002-03-06 20:03 ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 21:30 ` Patrick Lynch
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-28 10:37 Randal, Phil
2002-02-26 18:39 Dana Lacoste
2002-02-26 18:47 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-02-26 18:51 ` David Lang
2002-02-26 17:48 Rose, Billy
2002-02-26 17:53 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 18:03 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-26 17:56 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-26 19:41 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 18:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 18:15 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 18:23 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-02-26 18:19 ` David Lang
2002-02-26 18:29 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-27 21:00 ` James D Strandboge
2002-02-27 21:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-27 22:16 ` James D Strandboge
2002-02-27 22:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-27 23:03 ` James D Strandboge
2002-02-28 0:29 ` James D Strandboge
2002-03-04 2:17 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-04 15:12 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-04 15:33 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-04 19:17 ` James D Strandboge
2002-03-04 20:08 ` Jesse Pollard
2002-03-02 17:36 ` Pablo Alcaraz
2002-02-25 16:46 Rose, Billy
2002-02-25 3:27 Steven Walter
2002-02-25 5:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-25 10:16 ` Fabrice Bellet
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