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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, torvalds@transmeta.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	matthew@hairy.beasts.org, david@mysql.com, wli@holomorphy.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores...
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:07:21 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020303180721.57f36b07.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020225113239.A11675@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202250808150.3268-100000@home.transmeta.com> <E16fOAO-0005Ml-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20020225113239.A11675@redhat.com>

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:32:40 -0500
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 04:39:56PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > _alloca
> > mmap
> > 
> > Still fits on the stack 8)
> 
> Are we sure that forcing semaphore overhead to the size of a page is a 
> good idea?  I'd much rather see a sleep/wakeup mechanism akin to wait 
> queues be exported by the kernel so that userspace can implement a rich 
> set of locking functions on top of that in whatever shared memory is 
> being used.

Unfortunately, no.  You need to know what userspace is using them for so
you can check to avoid the "add to waitqueue" race.

AFAICT a mutex is the simplest useful primitive that can be realistically
exported.

Hope that helps,
Rusty.
-- 
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-04  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-23  3:47 [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Rusty Russell
2002-02-23 15:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-23 18:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-23 18:28     ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-23 20:31       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-23 21:22       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-26 16:09     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-24 23:29   ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-24 23:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25  1:10       ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-25  1:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 13:14           ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 16:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 16:39               ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 16:32                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-02-25 17:42                   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 18:23                   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-25 20:57                     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-03  7:07                   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2002-02-25 17:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 17:31                   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 17:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 17:50                       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 17:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 18:06                           ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 19:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-24  4:57                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-25 19:51                             ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-26 12:15                       ` [PATCH] 2.5.5 IDE clean 14 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 21:49                         ` Keith Owens
2002-02-27 10:08                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-01  4:56           ` [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-02 14:54       ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-25 15:00 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27  0:24   ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-27 15:53     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-01  0:24       ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-01  2:00         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27 16:29     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-02 14:50     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-03 13:30       ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-04 16:51         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-05  4:41           ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-01  4:44   ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-27  8:43 [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semphores Martin Wirth
2002-02-27 15:24 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27 17:17   ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-27 19:04     ` Hubertus Franke
     [not found]       ` <3C7FDF76.9040903@dlr.de>
2002-03-02 14:08         ` [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Hubertus Franke
     [not found] <20020227163834.GF322@reload.nmd.msu.ru>
2002-02-27 16:58 ` Hubertus Franke
     [not found]   ` <20020227173307.GH322@reload.nmd.msu.ru>
2002-02-27 22:09     ` Hubertus Franke

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