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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:57:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020304195723.J1444@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <phillips@bonn-fries.net> <1201480000.1015262195@tiny> <20020304180537.F1444@redhat.com> <E16hyRG-0000fO-00@starship.berlin>
In-Reply-To: <E16hyRG-0000fO-00@starship.berlin>; from phillips@bonn-fries.net on Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 08:48:02PM +0100

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 08:48:02PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On March 4, 2002 07:05 pm, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> > Also, as soon as we have journals on external devices, this whole
> > thing changes entirely.  We still have to enforce the commit ordering
> > in the journal, but we also still need the ordering between that
> > commit and any subsequent writeback, and that obviousy can no longer
> > be achieved via ordered tags if the two writes are happening on
> > different devices.
> 
> But the bio layer can manage it, by sending a write barrier down all relevant 
> queues.  We can send a zero length write barrier command, yes?

Sort of --- there are various flush commands we can use.  However, bio
can't just submit the barriers, it needs to synchronise them, and that
means doing a global wait over all the devices until they have all
acked their barrier op.  That's expensive: you may be as well off just
using the current fs-internal synchronous commands at that point.

--Stephen

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-04 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-22 15:57 [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3) James Bottomley
2002-02-22 16:10 ` Chris Mason
2002-02-22 16:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 17:36   ` James Bottomley
2002-02-22 18:14     ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 15:36       ` James Bottomley
2002-02-28 15:55         ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 17:58           ` Mike Anderson
2002-02-28 18:12           ` Chris Mason
2002-03-01  2:08             ` James Bottomley
2002-03-03 22:11         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  3:34           ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04  5:05             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 15:03               ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:04                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 17:16                   ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:05                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:28                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 19:55                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 19:48                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 19:57                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2002-03-04 21:06                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 14:58                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-05  7:48                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 19:51                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:42                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 17:35                   ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:48                     ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:11                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 18:41                         ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 21:34                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:09                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04  8:19             ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-04 14:57             ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:24               ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 19:02                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:22               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 23:01                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  4:21           ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04  5:31             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  6:09               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04  7:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:09                   ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 22:56                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 16:52                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:15                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:40                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-05 22:29                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-12  7:01                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-10  5:24                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-03-11 11:13                     ` Kurt Garloff
2002-03-12  1:17                       ` GOTO Masanori
2002-03-12  6:58                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-13 22:37                         ` Peter Osterlund
2002-03-11 11:34                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-11 17:15                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 14:48           ` James Bottomley
2002-03-06 13:59             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 14:34               ` James Bottomley
2002-02-25 10:57 ` Helge Hafting
2002-02-25 15:04   ` James Bottomley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-01 15:26 Dieter Nützel
2002-03-01 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-02-21 23:30 Chris Mason
2002-02-22 14:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 15:26   ` Chris Mason
2002-01-10  9:55 [ANNOUNCE] FUSE: Filesystem in Userspace 0.95 Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-13  3:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-21 10:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-23 10:47     ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-22 19:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-23  2:33   ` [Avfs] " Justin Mason
2002-01-23  5:26     ` Daniel Phillips

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