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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:42:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020305074221.GC716@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <phillips@bonn-fries.net> <20020304170434.B1444@redhat.com> <1201480000.1015262195@tiny> <E16hyUH-0000fT-00@starship.berlin>
In-Reply-To: <E16hyUH-0000fT-00@starship.berlin>

On Mon, Mar 04 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > writeback data order is important, mostly because of where the data blocks
> > are in relation to the log.  If you've got bdflush unloading data blocks
> > to the disk, and another process doing a commit, the drive's queue
> > might look like this:
> > 
> > data1, data2, data3, commit1, data4, data5 etc.
> > 
> > If commit1 is an ordered tag, the drive is required to flush 
> > data1, data2 and data3, then write the commit, then seek back
> > for data4 and data5.
> > 
> > If commit1 is not an ordered tag, the drive can write all the
> > data blocks, then seek back to get the commit.
> 
> We can have more than one queue per device I think.  Then we can have reads
> unaffected by write barriers, for example.  It never makes sense for a the 
> write barrier to wait on a read.

No, there will always be at most one queue for a device. There might be
more than one device on a queue, though, so yes the implementation at
the block/queue level still leaves something to be desired.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-05  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-22 15:57 [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3) James Bottomley
2002-02-22 16:10 ` Chris Mason
2002-02-22 16:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 17:36   ` James Bottomley
2002-02-22 18:14     ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 15:36       ` James Bottomley
2002-02-28 15:55         ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 17:58           ` Mike Anderson
2002-02-28 18:12           ` Chris Mason
2002-03-01  2:08             ` James Bottomley
2002-03-03 22:11         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  3:34           ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04  5:05             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 15:03               ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:04                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 17:16                   ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:05                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:28                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 19:55                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 19:48                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 19:57                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 21:06                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 14:58                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-05  7:48                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 19:51                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:42                       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2002-03-04 17:35                   ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:48                     ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:11                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 18:41                         ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 21:34                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:09                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04  8:19             ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-04 14:57             ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:24               ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 19:02                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:22               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 23:01                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  4:21           ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04  5:31             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  6:09               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04  7:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:09                   ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 22:56                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 16:52                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:15                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:40                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-05 22:29                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-12  7:01                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-10  5:24                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-03-11 11:13                     ` Kurt Garloff
2002-03-12  1:17                       ` GOTO Masanori
2002-03-12  6:58                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-13 22:37                         ` Peter Osterlund
2002-03-11 11:34                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-11 17:15                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 14:48           ` James Bottomley
2002-03-06 13:59             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 14:34               ` James Bottomley
2002-02-25 10:57 ` Helge Hafting
2002-02-25 15:04   ` James Bottomley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-01 15:26 Dieter Nützel
2002-03-01 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-02-21 23:30 Chris Mason
2002-02-22 14:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 15:26   ` Chris Mason
2002-01-10  9:55 [ANNOUNCE] FUSE: Filesystem in Userspace 0.95 Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-13  3:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-21 10:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-23 10:47     ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-22 19:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-23  2:33   ` [Avfs] " Justin Mason
2002-01-23  5:26     ` Daniel Phillips

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