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From: Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@drgw.net>
To: The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University 
	<opensource-admin@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, opensource@cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:38:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020305163809.D1682@altus.drgw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org>; from opensource-admin@cis.ohio-state.edu on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:52:34PM -0500

> In summary, please do not advocate BitKeeper for use by the general
> community.  The Linux development process seems to have worked up till
> now, and we can wait a little longer until Arch[3] or Subversion[4]
> are completed.  Moreover, full-featured, completely functional free 
> versioning sytems are currently available, such as PRCS[5] and CVS[6].
> We respect the kernel maintainer's freedom to use proprietary software 
> for their own purposes.  And we ask the kernel maintainers to respect 
> the community's freedom from entrapment by proprietary software.


First, CVS is COMPLETELY inadequate for the kind of distributed, 
non-centralized development that goes on for the kernel.

Bitkeeper solves some rather difficult problems that *NOTHING ELSE SOLVES* 
right now. This is why I've continued to use it for the last 2 years, even 
though I occasionally get annoyed that it's not free software.

Your efforts on this petition would be FAR better spent (and appreciated) 
by attempting to mirror several BK kernel trees with Arch or Subversion. 
You will soon find out the limitations of both, and maybe even improve 
both projects to the point that they will be useable instead of bitkeeper.

Instead of whining about developers using BK, go out and give us an
alternative. Maybe then we will listen.

-- 
Troy Benjegerdes | master of mispeeling | 'da hozer' |  hozer@drgw.net
-----"If this message isn't misspelled, I didn't write it" -- Me -----
"Why do musicians compose symphonies and poets write poems? They do it
because life wouldn't have any meaning for them if they didn't. That's 
why I draw cartoons. It's my life." -- Charles Schulz

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-05 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-05 21:52 Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
2002-03-05 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 22:38 ` Troy Benjegerdes [this message]
2002-03-06  0:51   ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 14:54     ` Kent Borg
2002-03-06 16:56       ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 22:13         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 16:17           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 19:54             ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:15               ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:38                 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 21:05                 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-07 21:07                   ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:24                     ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07 22:44                       ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 23:08                         ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of Alan Cox
2002-03-07 23:04                           ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08  4:12                     ` Open Source should stand on its own two legs Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 21:41                   ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers yodaiken
2002-03-07 22:01                   ` John Jasen
2002-03-07 22:17                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 23:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13  2:31                     ` Petro
2002-03-08  2:38                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-07 20:50               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 20:53                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:42                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:47                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-07 20:50               ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:12                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:15                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:28                   ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by LinuxMaintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:47                     ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:56                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-15  6:45                     ` kgdb for 2.4 and 2.5, now in BK Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 21:47                 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:58                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:58                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 22:46                 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 22:42             ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 19:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-07 19:32             ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:12             ` george anzinger
2002-03-07 21:37             ` kernel debuggers (was Bitkeeper Bashing) Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:41 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:40   ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-05 22:54     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement ofBitKeeper " Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:06       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:11       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-03-06  0:09       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06  2:23       ` Karl
2002-03-06  3:35         ` michael bernstein
2002-03-07  1:22       ` David Schwartz
2002-03-05 23:01     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper " Mike Fedyk
2002-03-05 23:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 23:25         ` David Lang
2002-03-06 20:46         ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-06 21:07           ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-07  2:35           ` Petro
2002-03-05 23:16       ` David Lang
2002-03-05 23:19       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:36       ` Michael Bernstein
2002-03-05 23:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:57           ` That Linux Guy
2002-03-06  0:02         ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-03-06  1:05         ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-06  1:22           ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06  1:46             ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06  1:50               ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-06  1:59                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06  2:19                 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 16:08         ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  1:27         ` David Schwartz
2002-03-07  1:34           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  2:33             ` Petro
2002-03-07  7:06               ` Rob Turk
2002-03-09 16:12       ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeepe Kai Henningsen
2002-03-06 16:04     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 19:46       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-06 20:12         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-06 20:24           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 20:57       ` David S. Miller
2002-03-06 21:12         ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 21:15           ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-06 21:25         ` Evan Powers
2002-03-05 22:50   ` Kilobug
2002-03-05 23:29   ` Stephen Samuel
     [not found]     ` <004301c1c4a6$ab218340$b0d3fea9@pcs686>
2002-03-08  1:39       ` Stephen Samuel
2002-03-08  2:25         ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-08  3:32         ` yodaiken
2002-03-08  4:35           ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-08  7:56         ` Sean Hunter
2002-03-06  2:23   ` Karl
2002-03-06  3:47     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06  3:40       ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-06  5:04         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06  0:11   ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-06  6:11     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-03-06  7:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-06 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  9:15   ` Pau Aliagas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-05 22:33 rddunlap
     [not found] <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3C8543CC.A6017F76@zip.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-03-06  9:40   ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-06 10:17     ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06 14:48       ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-06 15:59         ` yodaiken
2002-03-06 13:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-06 14:30       ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-06 17:00         ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 18:11           ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-07  4:27             ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 16:51           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-03-07 17:26             ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 17:39               ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-08 10:07             ` Matthias Andree
2002-03-07 18:02 Jean-Luc Leger
2002-03-07 18:33 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 18:10 Nicholas Berry

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