From: The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University <opensource-admin@cis.ohio-state.edu>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: opensource@cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:52:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org> (raw)
Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
We, the undersigned members and officers of the Open Source Club at
the Ohio State University, are unhappy with the advocacy of the
proprietary[1] BitKeeper software for use in maintaining the Linux
kernel. The Linux kernel is an important symbol of Open Source and
Free Software for many people, and a project in which many thousands
have participated in active development. It is fine if some kernel
developers choose to use BitKeeper on their own machines, but
officially endorsing proprietary software as the means of working on
the kernel is a large step backwards for Linux, and for the Open
Source and Free Software communities.
If the core Linux maintainers begin to advocate using BitKeeper, then
there will be strong pressure on these peripheral developers to use
BitKeeper too, since it would likely be easier than browsing the
web-exported changelogs or fetching the latest diff from kernel.org.
Using a closed-source, proprietary source control system for the
kernel is even worse than using other forms of proprietary software
such as source code analysis systems, because the revision control
metadata (version numbers, branches, changelog comments, etc.), would
be stored in a format defined by the proprietary software. This
metadata is really a part of Linux, because people will want to use it
when talking about the kernel. Those who can't[2] or don't want to
use BitKeeper are left out in the cold. One of the most important
parts of Open Source and Free Software is that we, the community, are
in control. But by using and advocating BitKeeper, we would lose part
of that control.
In summary, please do not advocate BitKeeper for use by the general
community. The Linux development process seems to have worked up till
now, and we can wait a little longer until Arch[3] or Subversion[4]
are completed. Moreover, full-featured, completely functional free
versioning sytems are currently available, such as PRCS[5] and CVS[6].
We respect the kernel maintainer's freedom to use proprietary software
for their own purposes. And we ask the kernel maintainers to respect
the community's freedom from entrapment by proprietary software.
-- The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
Signed by:
Michael Benedict <zosima@zosima.org>
Colin Walters <walters@debian.org>
Matt Curtin <cmcurtin@interhack.net>
Martin Jansche <jansche@ling.ohio-state.edu>
Balbir Thomas <thomas.1037@osu.edu>
Nicholas Hurley <hurley@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Ryan McCormack <mccormac@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Shaun Rowland <rowland@cis.ohio-state.edu>
[1] http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/user/x/i/xiphmont/Public/critique.html
[2] Perhaps they aren't connected to the internet regularly enough,
for instance.
[3] http://www.regexps.com/#arch
[4] http://subversion.tigris.org
[5] http://prcs.sourceforge.net
[6] http://www.cvshome.org
next reply other threads:[~2002-03-05 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-05 21:52 The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University [this message]
2002-03-05 22:16 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 22:38 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-06 0:51 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 14:54 ` Kent Borg
2002-03-06 16:56 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 22:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 16:17 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:15 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:38 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 21:05 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-07 21:07 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:24 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07 22:44 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 23:08 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of Alan Cox
2002-03-07 23:04 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08 4:12 ` Open Source should stand on its own two legs Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 21:41 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers yodaiken
2002-03-07 22:01 ` John Jasen
2002-03-07 22:17 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 23:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13 2:31 ` Petro
2002-03-08 2:38 ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-07 20:50 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 20:53 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:23 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:42 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:47 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-07 20:50 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:15 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:28 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by LinuxMaintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:47 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-15 6:45 ` kgdb for 2.4 and 2.5, now in BK Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 21:47 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:58 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 22:46 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 22:42 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-07 19:32 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:12 ` george anzinger
2002-03-07 21:37 ` kernel debuggers (was Bitkeeper Bashing) Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:41 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:40 ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-05 22:54 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement ofBitKeeper " Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:06 ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-03-06 0:09 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06 2:23 ` Karl
2002-03-06 3:35 ` michael bernstein
2002-03-07 1:22 ` David Schwartz
2002-03-05 23:01 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper " Mike Fedyk
2002-03-05 23:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 23:25 ` David Lang
2002-03-06 20:46 ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-06 21:07 ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-07 2:35 ` Petro
2002-03-05 23:16 ` David Lang
2002-03-05 23:19 ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:36 ` Michael Bernstein
2002-03-05 23:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:57 ` That Linux Guy
2002-03-06 0:02 ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-03-06 1:05 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-06 1:22 ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06 1:46 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 1:50 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-06 1:59 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 2:19 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 16:08 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 1:27 ` David Schwartz
2002-03-07 1:34 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 2:33 ` Petro
2002-03-07 7:06 ` Rob Turk
2002-03-09 16:12 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeepe Kai Henningsen
2002-03-06 16:04 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 19:46 ` Colin Walters
2002-03-06 20:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-06 20:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 20:57 ` David S. Miller
2002-03-06 21:12 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 21:15 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-06 21:25 ` Evan Powers
2002-03-05 22:50 ` Kilobug
2002-03-05 23:29 ` Stephen Samuel
[not found] ` <004301c1c4a6$ab218340$b0d3fea9@pcs686>
2002-03-08 1:39 ` Stephen Samuel
2002-03-08 2:25 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-08 3:32 ` yodaiken
2002-03-08 4:35 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-08 7:56 ` Sean Hunter
2002-03-06 2:23 ` Karl
2002-03-06 3:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06 3:40 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-06 5:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 0:11 ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-06 6:11 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-03-06 7:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-06 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 9:15 ` Pau Aliagas
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-05 22:33 rddunlap
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2002-03-06 9:40 ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-06 10:17 ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06 14:48 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-06 15:59 ` yodaiken
2002-03-06 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-06 14:30 ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-06 17:00 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 18:11 ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-07 4:27 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 16:51 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-03-07 17:26 ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 17:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-08 10:07 ` Matthias Andree
2002-03-07 18:02 Jean-Luc Leger
2002-03-07 18:33 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 18:10 Nicholas Berry
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