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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@fenrus.demon.nl>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.19pre1aa1
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:03:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020306000314.M20606@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020305161032.F20606@dualathlon.random> <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203051354590.1413-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <20020305192604.J20606@dualathlon.random>, <20020305192604.J20606@dualathlon.random>; <20020305183053.A27064@fenrus.demon.nl> <3C8518AE.B44AF2D5@zip.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3C8518AE.B44AF2D5@zip.com.au>

On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:12:46AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 07:26:04PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > 
> > > Another approch would be to add the pages backing the bh into the lru
> > > too, but then we'd need to mess with the slab and new bitflags, new
> > > methods and so I don't think it's the best solution. The only good
> > > reason for putting new kind of entries in the lru would be to age them
> > > too the same way as the other pages, but we don't need that with the bh
> > > (they're just in, and we mostly care only about the page age, not the bh
> > > age).
> > 
> > For 2.5 I kind of like this idea. There is one issue though: to make
> > this work really well we'd probably need a ->prepareforfreepage()
> > or similar page op (which for page cache pages can be equal to writepage()
> > ) which the vm can use to prepare this page for freeing.
> 
> If we stop using buffer_heads for pagecache I/O, we don't have this problem.
> 
> I'm showing a 20% reduction in CPU load for large reads.  Which is a *lot*,
> given that read load is dominated by copy_to_user.
> 
> 2.5 is significantly less efficient than 2.4 at this time.  Some of that 
> seems to be due to worsened I-cache footprint, and a lot of it is due
> to the way buffer_heads now have a BIO wrapper layer.

Indeed, at the moment bio is making the thing more expensive in CPU
terms, even if OTOH it makes rawio fly.

> Take a look at submit_bh().   The writing is on the wall, guys.
> 
> -


Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-05 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-27 12:50 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-02-28 22:11 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01  1:30   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01  3:26     ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01  3:46       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01 12:51         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-01 18:37           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Mike Fedyk
2002-03-01 10:17       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Marco Colombo
2002-03-01 11:37         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Alan Cox
2002-03-02  2:06       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-02  2:28         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Alan Cox
2002-03-02  3:30           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-03 21:38         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  0:49           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04  1:46             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  2:25               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04  3:22                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 12:41                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 14:05                   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 14:23                     ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 16:10                       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 16:28                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 16:59                       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 18:18                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-03-04 18:41                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-03-04 18:46                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 22:06                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 23:03                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05 11:23                                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Stephan von Krawczynski
2002-03-05 17:35                                   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05  0:12                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05  6:21                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 21:37                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 18:19                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 18:56                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-04 22:25                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 23:09                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Gerrit Huizenga
2002-03-05  0:19                                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05  2:00                                   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Gerrit Huizenga
2002-03-04 22:38                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 21:36                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 23:01                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-04 23:11                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-04 23:52                                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05  0:01                                   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05  1:05                                     ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05  1:26                                       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05  1:40                                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05  1:55                                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05  5:16                                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05  5:47                                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05  6:33                                                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Samuel Ortiz
2002-03-05 12:22                                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 15:01                                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203050921510.1413-100000@duckman.distro.conecti va>
2002-03-05 15:29                                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05 15:43                                                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05  3:05                                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
2002-03-05  8:35                                   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 arjan
2002-03-05 12:41                                     ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 15:10                                       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 16:57                                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Rik van Riel
2002-03-05 18:26                                           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 18:30                                             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Arjan van de Ven
2002-03-05 19:12                                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 23:03                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2002-03-05 23:05                                                   ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 23:24                                                     ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 23:37                                                       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05 23:51                                                         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrew Morton
2002-03-06  0:09                                       ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 14:55                                     ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-05  5:38                               ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-05  6:45                                 ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 David Lang
     [not found]       ` <200203021958.g22JwKq08818@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2002-03-02 20:47         ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-03-02 20:58           ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Robert Love
2002-03-05 22:16             ` 2.4.19pre1aa1 Bill Davidsen
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2002-02-28  2:57 2.4.19pre1aa1 rwhron

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