From: Kent Borg <kentborg@borg.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>,
Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@drgw.net>,
The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
<opensource-admin@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, opensource@cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:54:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020306095434.B6599@borg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org> <20020305163809.D1682@altus.drgw.net> <20020305165123.V12235@work.bitmover.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020305165123.V12235@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:51:23PM -0800
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:51:23PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote:
> BitKeeper is a non-trivial project, it has:
> * close to 200 commands, with about 800 different options.
When I was recently doing some PPC work I used Bitkeeper (because PPC
folks do) and I didn't like it. It was so complicated to use, hell,
seemed like there were 200 commands with 800 options. And when I
couldn't get it to correctly export a tree I couldn't tell if I was
doing it wrong or it was a bug.
I can appreciate that the problem BK tries to solve is a big one with
subtleties that have to get done right, and, as I type this on my
notebook sitting in front of my work computer, I wish CVS were
distributed. But I am not convinced BK is as elegant in its design as
it could be, I *know* it is not as elegant in its user interface as it
could be.
I also dislike the irony of BK being proprietary. Sure, they might
have an enlightened and generous attitude not, but PGP used to be
free, then it became kinda free and then it became orphaned. Luckily
GPG came along, luckily PGP didn't have a monoploy on our history.
-kb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-06 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-05 21:52 Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
2002-03-05 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 22:38 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-06 0:51 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 14:54 ` Kent Borg [this message]
2002-03-06 16:56 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 22:13 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 16:17 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:15 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:38 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 21:05 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-07 21:07 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:24 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07 22:44 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 23:08 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of Alan Cox
2002-03-07 23:04 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08 4:12 ` Open Source should stand on its own two legs Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 21:41 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers yodaiken
2002-03-07 22:01 ` John Jasen
2002-03-07 22:17 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 23:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13 2:31 ` Petro
2002-03-08 2:38 ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-07 20:50 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 20:53 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:23 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:42 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:47 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-07 20:50 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:15 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:28 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by LinuxMaintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:47 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-15 6:45 ` kgdb for 2.4 and 2.5, now in BK Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 21:47 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:58 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 22:46 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 22:42 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-07 19:32 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:12 ` george anzinger
2002-03-07 21:37 ` kernel debuggers (was Bitkeeper Bashing) Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:41 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:40 ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-05 22:54 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement ofBitKeeper " Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:06 ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-03-06 0:09 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06 2:23 ` Karl
2002-03-06 3:35 ` michael bernstein
2002-03-07 1:22 ` David Schwartz
2002-03-05 23:01 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper " Mike Fedyk
2002-03-05 23:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 23:25 ` David Lang
2002-03-06 20:46 ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-06 21:07 ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-07 2:35 ` Petro
2002-03-05 23:16 ` David Lang
2002-03-05 23:19 ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:36 ` Michael Bernstein
2002-03-05 23:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:57 ` That Linux Guy
2002-03-06 0:02 ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-03-06 1:05 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-06 1:22 ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06 1:46 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 1:50 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-06 1:59 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 2:19 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 16:08 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 1:27 ` David Schwartz
2002-03-07 1:34 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 2:33 ` Petro
2002-03-07 7:06 ` Rob Turk
2002-03-09 16:12 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeepe Kai Henningsen
2002-03-06 16:04 ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 19:46 ` Colin Walters
2002-03-06 20:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-06 20:24 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 20:57 ` David S. Miller
2002-03-06 21:12 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 21:15 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-06 21:25 ` Evan Powers
2002-03-05 22:50 ` Kilobug
2002-03-05 23:29 ` Stephen Samuel
[not found] ` <004301c1c4a6$ab218340$b0d3fea9@pcs686>
2002-03-08 1:39 ` Stephen Samuel
2002-03-08 2:25 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-08 3:32 ` yodaiken
2002-03-08 4:35 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-08 7:56 ` Sean Hunter
2002-03-06 2:23 ` Karl
2002-03-06 3:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06 3:40 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-06 5:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 0:11 ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-06 6:11 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-03-06 7:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-06 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 9:15 ` Pau Aliagas
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2002-03-05 22:33 rddunlap
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2002-03-06 9:40 ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-06 10:17 ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06 14:48 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-06 15:59 ` yodaiken
2002-03-06 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-06 14:30 ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-06 17:00 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 18:11 ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-07 4:27 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 16:51 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-03-07 17:26 ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 17:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-08 10:07 ` Matthias Andree
2002-03-07 18:02 Jean-Luc Leger
2002-03-07 18:33 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 18:10 Nicholas Berry
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