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From: Cort Dougan <cort@fsmlabs.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:50:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020307135043.K9231@host110.fsmlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org> <20020305163809.D1682@altus.drgw.net> <20020305165123.V12235@work.bitmover.com> <20020306095434.B6599@borg.org> <20020306085646.F15303@work.bitmover.com> <20020306221305.GA370@elf.ucw.cz>, <20020306221305.GA370@elf.ucw.cz>; <20020307101701.S1682@altus.drgw.net> <3C87C583.C8565E4B@zip.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3C87C583.C8565E4B@zip.com.au>; from akpm@zip.com.au on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:54:43AM -0800

We're here to discuss kernel development, right?  Not debate software
ideologies.

I move the PPC tree over to BitKeeper and it was worthwhile.  I made
rsync updates and plain old 'diff' patches against Linus' tree available
nightly.  It was easy and very quick to do that, I had it running for
nearly 2 years very well.  In fact, you can still grab the patches from
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/cort/.  What is your problem with BK
apart from the license religion?  Linus has made it clear he'll provide
patches in the same old style.  I don't see what you think you lose here.
The gain for people who ship him patches is well worth it.  Before I handed
the PPC tree over to Paul I would have killed to get Linus to use BK so
shipping him patches would be easier for everyone involved.  If I were
still a maintainer my response would be a lot less mild to those people
that fight against BK on something so intangible as "feelings" about the
license.  I put in a lot of hours shipping patches that were for nothing,
BK is helping avoid that for the current crew.

Seriously, what is your problem with BK?  What do you feel that you lose?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-07 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-05 21:52 Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
2002-03-05 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-05 22:38 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-06  0:51   ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 14:54     ` Kent Borg
2002-03-06 16:56       ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 22:13         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-07 16:17           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 19:54             ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 20:15               ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:38                 ` yodaiken
2002-03-07 21:05                 ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-07 21:07                   ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:24                     ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-07 22:44                       ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 23:08                         ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of Alan Cox
2002-03-07 23:04                           ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08  4:12                     ` Open Source should stand on its own two legs Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 21:41                   ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers yodaiken
2002-03-07 22:01                   ` John Jasen
2002-03-07 22:17                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 23:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13  2:31                     ` Petro
2002-03-08  2:38                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-07 20:50               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 20:53                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 21:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:42                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:47                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-07 20:50               ` Cort Dougan [this message]
2002-03-07 21:12                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 21:15                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:28                   ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by LinuxMaintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 22:47                     ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 22:56                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-15  6:45                     ` kgdb for 2.4 and 2.5, now in BK Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 21:47                 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Andrew Morton
2002-03-07 21:58                   ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 21:58                   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07 22:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-07 22:46                 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 22:42             ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-07 19:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-07 19:32             ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-07 20:12             ` george anzinger
2002-03-07 21:37             ` kernel debuggers (was Bitkeeper Bashing) Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:41 ` Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 22:40   ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-05 22:54     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement ofBitKeeper " Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:06       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:11       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-03-06  0:09       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06  2:23       ` Karl
2002-03-06  3:35         ` michael bernstein
2002-03-07  1:22       ` David Schwartz
2002-03-05 23:01     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper " Mike Fedyk
2002-03-05 23:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-05 23:25         ` David Lang
2002-03-06 20:46         ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-06 21:07           ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-07  2:35           ` Petro
2002-03-05 23:16       ` David Lang
2002-03-05 23:19       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-05 23:36       ` Michael Bernstein
2002-03-05 23:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-05 23:57           ` That Linux Guy
2002-03-06  0:02         ` Kenneth Johansson
2002-03-06  1:05         ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-06  1:22           ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06  1:46             ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06  1:50               ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-06  1:59                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06  2:19                 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-06 16:08         ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  1:27         ` David Schwartz
2002-03-07  1:34           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  2:33             ` Petro
2002-03-07  7:06               ` Rob Turk
2002-03-09 16:12       ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeepe Kai Henningsen
2002-03-06 16:04     ` [opensource] Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 19:46       ` Colin Walters
2002-03-06 20:12         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-06 20:24           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 20:57       ` David S. Miller
2002-03-06 21:12         ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 21:15           ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-06 21:25         ` Evan Powers
2002-03-05 22:50   ` Kilobug
2002-03-05 23:29   ` Stephen Samuel
     [not found]     ` <004301c1c4a6$ab218340$b0d3fea9@pcs686>
2002-03-08  1:39       ` Stephen Samuel
2002-03-08  2:25         ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-08  3:32         ` yodaiken
2002-03-08  4:35           ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-08  7:56         ` Sean Hunter
2002-03-06  2:23   ` Karl
2002-03-06  3:47     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-06  3:40       ` [opensource] " michael bernstein
2002-03-06  5:04         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2002-03-05 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06  0:11   ` [opensource] " Colin Walters
2002-03-06  6:11     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-03-06  7:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-06 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-07  9:15   ` Pau Aliagas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-05 22:33 rddunlap
     [not found] <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3C8543CC.A6017F76@zip.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-03-06  9:40   ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-06 10:17     ` Dave Jones
2002-03-06 14:48       ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-06 15:59         ` yodaiken
2002-03-06 13:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-06 14:30       ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-06 17:00         ` Larry McVoy
2002-03-06 18:11           ` Roman Zippel
2002-03-07  4:27             ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-07 16:51           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-03-07 17:26             ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-07 17:39               ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-08 10:07             ` Matthias Andree
2002-03-07 18:02 Jean-Luc Leger
2002-03-07 18:33 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-07 18:10 Nicholas Berry

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