From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: Steve Lord <lord@sgi.com>
Cc: Etienne Lorrain <etienne_lorrain@yahoo.fr>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] delayed disk block allocation
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:30:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020307173021.GB28141@matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020307120609.85742.qmail@web11804.mail.yahoo.com> <1015512444.1293.14.camel@jen.americas.sgi.com>
In-Reply-To: <1015512444.1293.14.camel@jen.americas.sgi.com>
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:47:24AM -0600, Steve Lord wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 06:06, Etienne Lorrain wrote:
> > > With "allocate on flush", (aka delayed allocation), file data is
> > > assigned a disk mapping when the data is being written out, rather than
> > > at write(2) time. This has the following advantages:
> >
> > I do agree that this is a better solution than current one,
> > but (even if I did not had time to test the patch), I have
> > a question: How about bootloaders?
> >
> > IHMO all current bootloaders need to write to disk a "chain" of sector
> > to load for their own initialisation, i.e. loading the remainning
> > part of code stored on a file in one filesystem from the 512 bytes
> > bootcode. This "chain" of sector can only be known once the file
> > has been allocated to disk - and it has to be written on the same file,
> > at its allocated space.
> >
> > So can you upgrade LILO or GRUB with your patch installed?
> > It is not a so big problem (the solution being to install the
> > bootloader on an unmounted filesystem with tools like e2fsprogs),
> > but it seems incompatible with the current executables.
>
> The interface used by lilo to read the kernel location needs to flush
> data out to disk before returning results. It's not too hard to do.
>
Also, GRUB shouldn't have this problem since it reads the filesystems
directly on boot.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-07 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-07 12:06 [patch] delayed disk block allocation Etienne Lorrain
2002-03-07 14:47 ` Steve Lord
2002-03-07 17:30 ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
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2002-03-04 14:54 rwhron
2002-03-04 15:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-01 8:26 Andrew Morton
2002-03-04 2:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 3:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-04 7:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-04 5:04 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-04 5:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-04 5:40 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-04 6:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-04 5:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-04 6:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-04 15:02 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-06 12:59 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-04 7:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-04 8:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 8:34 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-04 7:20 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-04 9:23 ` Daniel Phillips
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