From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com>,
Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, James Antill <james@and.org>,
Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Tom Lord <lord@regexps.com>,
jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu,
Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:26:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020313082647.Y23966@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020312223738.GB29832@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0203131037240.17582-100000@vervain.sonytel.be> <20020313143720.GA32244@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020313143720.GA32244@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net>; from andrew@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net on Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:37:20AM -0500
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:37:20AM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:39:28AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> > > This is misleading--Clearcase stores versions on top a normal
> > > filesystem (like most other RCS's), and all manipulation is entirely
> > ^^^^^^^^
> > > in user-space (over the network to server processes). There only
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > filesystem magic is that there are directories you cannot list (plus
> > > permission semantics are a little funny).
> >
> > So what's that ClearCase file system driver doing in kernel space?
>
> Just providing a convenient view on the repository. The only write
> operation you can do through the filesystem is write to the checked
> out version. Checkin, checkout, branch, label, create new
> file/directory, rename, link, chmod, etc are all user-space.
>
> Also, you can use ClearCase without the filesystem (snapshot view)
> and get all the same functionality.
Are you sure about that? Snapshots are just the cleartext files. The
set of operations you can do with a disconnected snapshot is extremely
limited, last I checked all you could do was edit the files.
--
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-13 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-06 7:33 linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Jeramy B. Smith
2002-02-06 15:15 ` Florian Weimer
2002-02-07 16:50 ` Jan Harkes
2002-02-07 23:06 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-07 21:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-08 1:02 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-07 21:23 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-02-07 21:28 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 21:25 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-08 2:32 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-08 15:33 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-08 21:35 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-11 8:20 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-02-11 15:00 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-11 20:25 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-11 22:14 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-12 5:17 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-12 3:59 ` Theodore Tso
2002-02-12 6:19 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-02-12 20:28 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-12 22:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-13 0:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 9:41 ` Tom Lord
2002-02-13 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-12 11:01 ` Josh MacDonald
2002-02-12 11:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-18 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-10 8:36 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 19:41 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-10 20:19 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 21:16 ` Rob Turk
2002-03-10 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-10 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-11 8:22 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-10 21:28 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 11:04 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-11 9:46 ` Harald Arnesen
2002-03-10 21:37 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-11 5:48 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 5:52 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 6:15 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 6:37 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 6:42 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-11 13:13 ` yodaiken
2002-03-11 15:51 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 16:08 ` yodaiken
2002-03-11 16:56 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 22:51 ` James Antill
2002-03-12 7:58 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-12 22:37 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 8:09 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-13 15:10 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 9:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-13 14:37 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 16:26 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2002-03-13 16:30 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-03-13 19:18 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-14 9:39 ` filesystem transactions (was Re: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing) Tom Lord
2002-03-14 8:26 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-14 10:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-11 14:05 ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Luigi Genoni
2002-03-11 10:46 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-03-11 11:32 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 15:29 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 16:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 16:25 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 17:08 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 17:16 ` Nikita Danilov
2002-03-11 18:22 ` VMS File versions (was RE: linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing) Robert Pfister
2002-03-11 18:41 ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Steven Cole
2002-03-11 19:15 ` Hans Reiser
2002-03-11 21:33 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-11 21:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-11 22:01 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-11 22:19 ` Steven Cole
2002-03-12 0:14 ` Robert Pfister
2002-03-12 7:54 ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing (If you don't like the closed source nature of Bitkeeper, stop your whining and help out with reiserfs.) Hans Reiser
2002-03-12 1:28 ` linux-2.5.4-pre1 - bitkeeper testing Mark H. Wood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-12 18:08 Thunder from the hill
2002-02-06 3:37 Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 6:50 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06 7:50 ` Reid Hekman
2002-02-06 8:03 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 19:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-02-06 19:45 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-06 20:44 ` Wayne Scott
2002-02-06 20:35 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 22:25 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-02-06 15:17 ` Florian Weimer
2002-02-06 15:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-06 16:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-06 22:19 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-06 17:30 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 19:58 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-06 23:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 8:07 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-07 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-07 17:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-07 19:46 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-08 0:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-08 5:28 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-08 6:06 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-08 6:14 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-08 6:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-07 10:50 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-06 19:38 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-06 23:06 ` Larry McVoy
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